I do think that generally society thinks of a fetish as being dark and sinister whereas a kink is seen to be lighter and more fun. I think as crossdressers we don't like to be thought of as having a fetish and in most cases I believe that it is not the case.
I thought this article was interesting in that is described a kink as a sexual practice with another person but a fetish is about and object or activity - not the other person.
http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/article/most-popular-sex-fetishes
If the definition of kinky is the use of unconventional sexual practice practices, concepts or fantasies. Crossdressing seems to be more about fantasy. How many of us actually want to involve our wives and partners in this fantasy? Quite a few I would have thought and it's only really because we are do not that it becomes a fetish. Granted there will be crossdressers who just wear lingerie for sexual fulfillment but to spend time getting dressed up without feeling any sexual need cannot be a fetish and only really kinky if you want to involve your partner.
Any thoughts?
Katie
Nice to have you back contributing Em x
Hoping Rebecca and Hannah are still ok with their husbands crossdressing.
3 success stories here among others and nice to see wives involved.
Need to get Esme back on.
It is part fetish but a small part.
Davina
It is part fetish or it is where it's a turn on for the crossdresser and a turn on for others involved.
For me and my other half it is sometimes a fetish and sometimes we'll both dress a lil racy for a night in.
We once dressed as hookers for a laugh and I did tease him about getting in the car and pushing him out to stand on a street corner haha. So see I've made him.leave the house in the past dressed safely of course so he didn't know if to believe me or not and maybe that's my lil fetish teasing him about his t girl side.
For the most part as you say it's fun and I get that now.
Emma (wife) x
Refreshing to have some new girls join and spark debate.
My wife asking to dress me a bolt from the blue.
Her wanting to see if her macho husband would let her dress him up not expecting me to say Yes and definatley not expecting me to look convincing as a girl and even more was not expecting me to confess I'd crossdressed before and indeed was a crossdresser.
This was a bit of a spark reignighting my urge to dress up not that long after getting married living together.
Me thinking she'd discovered my crisscrossing but she had no clue her dressing me totally unrelated and hindsight I could have said she started it not reignited the flame.
Other things causing stress in my life then pushed me back to dressing more regularly so my wife did have a hand in me dressing again after it had dwindled.
I don't like to think of it entirely as a fetish but has elements of fetish.
Relaxing and fun and I feel sexy... that must be weird for a wife to read.
Davina
I know Hannah typical teenager lol Masturbation happens crossdresser or not
Just chatting on Skype football and crossdressing
Davina
Oh Davina you were a dirty girl when younger keep your hands off yourself
Whats this you two skype chatting off the forum
I can understand the dressing to get off aspect particularly as a younger tgirl Davina do t worry weve all masterbated its perfectly healthy
For us its both a kink and a fetish but thats just us
Hannah (wife)
Maybe it's a journey from fetish to kink to neither as we grow older.
I've read on forums where the poster will say in their case it is definitely a fetish and always has been. For others it's a kink and yet others it neither. I suppose it all depends on our own journey but saying a prepubescent boy has a fetish is a bit harsh. Maybe a fascination develops into a fetish once the hormones kick in. Once they settle down it just becomes a kink and then finally, when you're past it neither lol.
Other fetishes seem to persist. I suppose if you have a shoe fetish there's nowhere to go. But if you start with lingerie then you can progress and purpose changes.
The article says about a trigger. As I said before my Dad used to work in a department store and we'd go and see hm at work quite often when I was little. If ever me or my sister need the loo my Mum would always take us to the ladies. That meant walking through the lingerie department. As it says men are more visual so maybe it's those early memories that stuck in my brain which eventually led to my own experimentation.
On the basis 50% of the population is female and it's seems like 90% of the clothing departments it's going to be hard stopping young boys picking up these visual triggers.
Katie
PS Davina I sent you a Skype text.
Through growing up Crossdressing I suppose it may at some point have been considered kinky and maybe a fetish.
Early dressing up as a kid was for the feel of the things i'd try on so not a fetish or kink as too young even to realise what those words meant.
11 years old into teenage years hmmm definitely a kink .. stockings lingerie high heels, first ever erection whilst crossdressed thinking something was wrong with me hoping it would go down, discovering it felt nice to touch it (still no idea what an erection was at that age or what masterbation was .. self taught lol )... and masturbation happened every time i dressed thinking of or fantasising about women wearing what i was wearing.. sometimes specific women right up to mid / late teens until I met Esme when Crossdressing took a sabatical around 18/19 years old
Probably early 20s this changed bearing in mind dating Esme and dressing more or less stopped until we moved in together and I dabbled trying on a few things when home decorating the house out of curiosity but didn't really dress then with work and other stress I started dressing again.
Some where mid 20's Esme asked to dress me as a woman including makeup and as I've put before but for the benefit of new of people here this wasn't a guess that I was a crossdresser Esme had no clue I crossdressed mid to late 20s ("Who would ever think or guess you crossdress") she just wanted to see if her dopy alpha male husband would let her dress him as a woman .. she actually asked twice and i said ok the 2nd time thinking she'd sussed me she knows ok lets do it.
This was a turning point as she made me look feminine with makeup and up to this point it had been lingerie stockings, tights heels only and here i was in a dress makeup lingerie heels and hair done more fem .. wow she made me into "Davina" so her fault lol .. I could have taken day zero as my crossdressing beginning from here and blamed her making it her idea but when i told her I'd crossdressed before I told her all about it from a young age blah blah blah..
It went a little sour telling her I was a crossdresser but it progressed in me the need to want to look more convincing so with Esmes help I got my first wig and so it started the crusade to look fem and real.
A pity my early photos of "Davina" as a long straight haired blonde" with minimal makeup skills got corrupted on a CDRW I used to save them on back before pen drives as I think younger and slimer I looked quite good as a girl but they are lost to the ether never to be seen again.
So was this a kink or a fetish .. I was dressing as a woman to try to look more real back then and looked ok although rather trashy as opposed to classy and it was something I used to get off on as well as used for escapism but also back then less opportunity to work from home only dressing when home alone but always ended in an orgasm before i changed back which led to a guilty "what am i doing pang" which i guess we've all been through.
Note getting myself off as Davina has no reflection on our healthy sex life at the time or on Esme but has at times helped me through sexual frustration I wont lie understandable around the time of Esme having the kids ie being very pregnant, giving birth and for a time after that and understandably not being very horny for this period of time and yes that sounds terrible what a pervert what a w£nker but being honest
So part a kink maybe part fetish but nowadays Esme is accepting far more than she was back then, I dress and it relaxes me, i find it fun, i like messing with makeup trying to look more convincing, it's escapism from male life for a few hours even working from home dressed and I feel sexy as Davina (define sexy.. Just feel sexy think i look better as Davina than male me but I'm also no good at telling if a man is attractive or not as men do not float my boat so who kows but I'll say I feel sexy as Davina for myself).
Esme and I have nights in and yes we've kissed as wife and crossdressed husband and she's not 100% how she feels about this .. I certainly loved it so an element of kink there dressed as a woman kissing ones wife passionately on the lips but not a fetish.
I do still feel quite turned on at times when I'm crossdressed and will admit sometimes cant help touching myself and must admit whilst I'm at it at sometimes getting myself off usually before I return to male me not always the case. I hear this wears off after a while but I'm early 40s now....
So there are elements through out my dressing history of fetish maybe but I'd say no more, but some kink may remain .. I'm not against Esme or anyone else calling me "Kinky" for dressing as a woman put it that way.
Hope this reads as I intended lol
Davina