So we chat a lot on here about Cross dressing as it is a cross dressing forum after all.. But no harm in adding other chat. So what else do we do? Here's moi I keep saying I'm a normal alpha bloke and I am here goes. I'm married with kids, Esme my wife's on this Forum (wish she'd come in and comment more often). Normal upbringing with sport sport and sport./oh and school ... Played Rugby to a good level but after youth mainly due to University played football which I'd played along side Rugby growing up with my summers playing Cricket to a good level. Actually played on tour in Barbados twice taking 15 wickets in 2 tours.. 5 in one match. Always led teams from school through to work.. Athletics I represented the school in almost every event.. I even played chess for the school. Liverpool fan โฝ Green Bay Packers fan ๐ Glamorgan fan ๐ Have been back to Barbados with the Barmy Army to see England beat the West Indies and watched SA beat the West Indies. Love a long weekend in London for the NFL ๐ with Esme.. Aside from sport, love my wife and kids, I'm a football coach (back to sport) as well as an Engineer covering Wales and the wider UK which come a with stress mainly due to self drive and frustration that we haven't progressed as far as I want us to in the UK. Did enough in School to get to college and did well there to get to Uni where I did even better then got a good job and have progressed my career well now being told I should become chartered but I see that as snobbery.. Common sense knowledge and has work beat that bit of paper and I've never put letters after my name. Love films and good TV series.. Into Sci Fi and Xbox gaming. Fortnite, Fifa, Star Wars Battle front 2 and Star Wars Squadrons at the moment.. Learnt how to build a wall last summer revamping the garden in lockdown and more Diy planned in the garden this spring / summer as well as diet and get fit again. So there's me the bloke oh and I cross dress. Concerned with Liverpools slump in form but they have held the bar very high for the last 2 years and are a bit injury ravaged and ripped off by referees and VAR. Davina
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I am a maintenance electrician to trade played sports was not to bad with a javelin, badminton, judo, karate and football master of non but did quite well. I am a Heart of Midlothian supporter. Married to the love of my life children from up flew the nest now itโs grandchildren. Love them all to bits would never change them for the world. And a very extensive fem wardrobe much more than my male drab side
Kids back in school only video meetings to stop me chilling as Davina working from home when I get the urge.. Woop woop.. Not quality time dressed but time dressed all the same โ
You are such a tease Davina you really are ๐x
I know ๐ I may decide to dress Thursday looking at my work schedule
That makes it even worse ๐ฉ N
I could have dressed today but chose not to ๐ฒ๐
Yeah right on Alina !!๐ ๐ฉฑwho needs all that dumb sissy stuff!! From now on Iโm only talking about corduroy trousers and cardigans. And I wish to be known as Norman.
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Guess what ..... I dressed as a woman today first time in 4 months.. Shock horror.. It actually felt.. Hard to describe.. Electric I think is the way to put it.
Katie...youโve got a swing...? Like your style I must say...
Alina. Listen to Auntie Liz. (Ok Great Aunt Liz). I do know exactly what you mean. Iโm on the same nihilistic wavelength (think itโs fm). I feel about as interested, perky and useful right now as a laddered stocking, but chucking your beloved gear in the dump just as we potentially emerge dazed and confused from 12 months of tranny vacuum and troglodyte existence wonโt help. If youโre going to put Alina into cryogenic captivity, at least donโt ice her skirts and heels just yet...she might need them again. Get to the effing point will you....ok, keep a steady hand...donโt do it ! x
If the latter let me know and Iโll hang round Redhill recycling dump and look out for black bin liners with 5inch heels sticking out. Iโve always fancied taking some old stuff along and shouting out to guy in charge โsorry mate which bay for bras, panties and tights?โ.
Alina you mean your sports stuff, or Alina stuff...?
Liverpool are back I hope and all it took was our no 3 back in his proper position..
Watch it if you can on Netflix
Katie x
I see they're changing the hand ball ruling again its ridiculous..
7 changes of Liverpool today nice to see some younger players get a game at the back and Jota back this is a must win seems Klopps either playing mind games with the players or he's settled for not being top 4 and hoping to do well in the rest of the Champions league this season.. I can't see it
See how serious the owners are and what business Liverpool can get done in the summer which we may see some shocks I think out and hope for some shocks in, I see Scousers crown funding for Mbappe.. its ok crowd funding but the cost is one thing then wages its a bit of a silly idea.. Haaland i'd prefer and would be a lot cheaper.
I'm crossing my fingers for 3 points for Liverpool today or i will be miserable later..
Origi should be prime but is spent and uninspiring, Ox is nowhere near good enough for Liverpool and never has been. Thiago playing further forward maybe but in the role he's in zero goals and zero assists. Front 3 loads still to offer with service but think Bobby needs to be moved on and need a proper goal poacher
There's senior pros then there's hangers on who aren't good enough I'd sooner see kids given a chance over Ox, and Origi
Liverpool are too intent on tiki taka aroubd a packed box and less likely to hit the target and try to score off following up the shot . .. I expected Thiago peppering the goal from range. 2 goals at home since Christmas is dreadful but everyone's been packing the 18 yd box v Liverpool. Problem not giving that hand ball is Liverpool had one given against Robertson with his hand at his side from close range.. Some are given some aren't so yes I'd have taken a point with a debatable penalty likewise id have taken a penalty if mane had gone down with contact in the first half thats high stakes football its all about winning at all cost and finishing top 4 these days. Papering over the cracks ? Liverpool just lack leadership and direction and Klipp needs to change tactics to suit the players he has available and fit and there are a dairy few who need to exit an field, Ox, Origi, Saquiri, even Bobby Firmino seems a shadow of his former self . The offside goal was offside compared to other offsides had can you be off side with your arm it has to change the mane off side v Everton when hendo scored was even tighter and the lines drawn a farce. Liverpool's problems run deeper than not getting penalties because of injuries to 3 senior defenders and a host of creative players and work horse midfielder and leaders injured. Money obviously was tight as it was obvious Liverpool had to strengthen to replace some of the dead wood but need to sell to buy. Everyone cagey over transfers and who wants Ox, Origi and Shaquiri?? Next season Liverpool fitness problems behind them a few signings and back to winning ways but Klopp needs that plan B. The front three had the challenge of Jota but who could predict hed be the main goal threat and then be out for the best part of 3 months injured. Cant hit a barn door but Salah is the top scorer in the league you dont take him off because he didnt track back as was on a high press and no secondary preas behind him.. Trent is a problem the amount of goals in the last 2 months hit into the space hes left marauding upfield and no hendo or fab sweeping up.. Midfield is totally different. Kieta injured most of the season and Fabinhio and Henderson playing centre back.. Jones Thiago and Gini.. Youd think woukd be creative but dont hunt the ball down the same as Gini, Hendo and Fab.. Injuries and Klopp tactics sussed is the problem. Lack of leadership and management on the pitch that VVD and Hendo provide
Rumours about Kloppety going to manage German national team at some stage, leaving Stevie G to move south of the border and form a Liverpool Independence Party (with Nicola Sturgeon in charge of legal).
You need to get training Alina...
Not handball apparently.. Natural position to have your hands.. If you're very camp maybe.. 5 losses at home on the bounce for Liverpool from setting records for the right reasons to setting them for the wrong reasons 12 points from 36 possible. Dreadful and stupid substitutions again by Klopp!!
Shocked by a Tripple Crown ๐ win for a Wales side i thought bereft of ideas but seems confidence was what they require.. Grand slam to play for now.
Ok, just me then that has never suffered any serious sports related injuries. Mainly because I've had a life-time of avoiding any sort of over-exertion, and have always preferred sport watching to participation. Having said that, I feel clapped out already. Even the thought of dressing (chance would be a fine thing - coming up to a year without!) feels like a lot of effort and pfaff ๐ณ
I remember as I passed out the anaesthetist saying you didnโt need to paint your nails girl
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I sympathise Katie, hope it stays ok. Iโm guessing I wonโt be able to run for weeks :( ah, I thought, at least Iโll be able to watch the cricket. Doh. When I had my first op they gave me a tube of hair removal cream to make half the leg hairless. That ruined me for life ๐
What's with the knees! I did mine playing 5 a side. My body went one way and the knee the other ๐ณ. Had all the usual x rays /MRI. Had a tear but my decision if they operated. They said a cyst had formed which made it difficult. I'm a bit of a wimp with hospitals so didn't. Needless to say playing football stopped which is why I coach. Last week I did 12 hours 1:1 in 4 days and it was swollen and sore. RICE. My son had to take over the sessions from me to finish the week! Resting this week ready for the weekend.
Katie x
Havebnt had an op no but expecting to have to have one if it goes again.
So if Iโve got this right you didnโt have an op. But you did stagger down the road en femme. Respect. I can barely walk in trainers today let alone Kurt Geigers. I nonce about in my running tights three times a week or more, guess I wonโt be doing that for a few months. Ho hum. x
Well that makes my โwas making a cappuccinoโ story look kinda lame ๐
Let me tell you all about it.. A week before me and Esme were making our annual pilgrimage to London for an NFL weekend ๐... We'd been before we knew the NFL crowd didn't turn up till late Saturday and the area was dead on a Friday night from past experiances.. The year before with it quiet I remarked at a bunch of women and his they could pass for T girls and then said I could have dressed and fit in with them.. So Esme said well maybe we'll do it next year.. Back to the week before and we're planning our NFL weekend in London.. Get there Friday, out as girls together for the very first time in public.. Saturday male me and a show.. Maybe a 2nd trio out En fem.. Sunday NFL and monday home then disaster.. Twist my knee playing football but determined to go out as Davina its still planned. Were there in the hotel the Friday night I dress do makeup put on a new wig and Esme's dressed.. She insisted Jeggins, boots and a blouse.. I insisted dress boots and tights.. And I won or rather Davina did she's a dress kinda gal. How do I look? You look convincing cool let's go.. No you go first I'll follow in a few mins.. So out the door feeling fab in the long corridor, into the reception area lots of people about as the bar is adjacent to reception and I'm waiting for the lift... I'm feeling fab and don't think I'm getting untoward attention who would realise the woman waiting for a lift is a bloke.. Into the lift alone and down to the ground floor.. Lift doors open and as I'm stepping out there's a foreign family trying to get in.. Its the ground floor I've just come down its obvious I'm getting out but oh no theyre getting in the lift and as I step out their kid cuts me up I either knee him in the head or I divert my step .. The latter and snap something went in my already injured knee. I stagger to the steps by the lift must have looked well weird and they paid no attention no sorry ignorance was bliss they had their lift and off they went. What I should have done was back up in the lift and to the room but I wanted to go out I walked outside and 20m from the hotel.. I've played all kinds of sport and run of knocks I'll be fine.. Stood there waiting for Esme and here she comes.. You walk on I'll walk slightly behind you.. Told her about my knee and the ignorant family.. We've walked a few 100 yds its so light with ship lights and street lights but I'm not getting pointed at and Esme catches me up OMG you're passing non one knows you're a man.. On we went my knee slowly seizing up. Half a mile from the hotel I'm starting to sweat and my knee is seized I sat down.. I have no idea how but in heeled boots made it back to the hotel and to our room the agony unbelievable. Led on the bed Esme gets some ice first my knee from the bar.. This has to subside.. A few hours passed and right let's get this dress and makeup off stood up and fell down could put no weight on my leg.. Managed to take off makeup and put on some shorts back on the bed FUBAR.. The weekend ahead in jeapody.. I fall asleep on beer and iburofen.. As luck would have it by the hotel an Argos and tada they sold crutches.. Weekend saved.. Crutching around London ... Skipped the queue to the show as I was on crutches they fast tracked me.. Then Sunday stopped at Wembley.. Put in wheelchair at their insistence and taken to my seat then picked to after the game and taken back to the exit in a wheelchair. 4 months on crutches.. Both knees now shot and not had an Op but tears in my right knee no idea my left never had it MRI but given up the football.. First time out my knee tore.. Ouch.. But I've added been out in public with my wife both dolled up as women to the bucket list and I'd do it again minus the injury. Davina
Bloody hell...did it heal without an op?
Yes it can mine healed bearing in mind I spent 4 months on crutches as I was waiting ages for my MRI scan which was sent to the wrong GP surgery. I was walking about and went to the Dr for another reason months later when they told me they'd got NY MRI back and a tear in my meniscus.
Hereโs a question for you sporty macho ladies, I mean feminine blokes, oh whatever...I ruptured a ligament about 15 years ago in my knee, had an arthroscopy which fixed it...Sunday morning twisted my knee somehow (making coffee), felt a kind of stabbing or tear, then decided doing my normal Sunday run was a good idea...last 3 days you could fry an egg on my kneecap, been icing and resting...gp says it could have torn again, rest it you twat (not quite his words). Can a minor tear or sprain in a ligament heal itself in time? Deeply depressed of East Surrey.
I'll stick to Davina ๐คฃ
I canโt remember what mine are. I can call myself Maincrop but itโs not very sexy is it.
Yeah, I've got my Lady Christles busily chitting away. I grew them last year and liked them so much I was even thinking of changing my user name on tvchix after them.
I have one of those put you up green houses
Do you have a greenhouse? I can see you pottering in a nightie and a Liverpool hat growing all things red.
Beans, Carrots, peas, potatoes, cucumber i think we'll do and maybe some herbs.. have mint which i hope comes back this year
Iโm chitting as we speak ๐ฅ
I need time start thinking about what we want to grow this year.
Hey Davina. This will take your mind off football and crossdressing and cheer you up a bit.
I've potted up peppers, chillis, spinach, parsley and parsnips in the last few days. Parsnips are outside - the rest under cover. I would tell you about the fate of my broad beans but don't want to spoil the generally upbeat nature of this post.
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But have to enjoy your time whilst you're here โ
Cheer up Davina, you come from nothing, you go back to nothing, what have you got to lose? Nothing...!x
Top one a rugby tackle no penalty.. The bottom one takes two steps knees Trent in the back of the head flops over and penalty.. VAR is a joke as is that Mancunian referee and his 1 second monitor review.
What's worse than not cross dressing for the last 10 weeks? Liverpool taking 9 points from a possible 33 that's what Emma as if its not bad enough work stress sending me potty Liverpool go on this losing streak and seems there's no end to it. We were top if the League Christmas day and now freefalling.. Good job some of the other teams are rotten too at the moment but Man City will walk it this year like Liverpool did last year leaves any hope of a belated victory parade with a bitter aftertaste.
Oh he wasnt a happy bunny yesterday Davina
Did you tell Esme it was never a penalty and show her the replay over and over then compare it to times Liverpool weren't given a penalty for worse if so you and him are very alike in your Passion for Liverpool FC and you're both not happy this weekend.
Did you mope about like he did today because of it and comment on facebook in discussion groups about that penalty? lol
Bear in mind that made it 2-0 so Liverpool would have lost anyway.
I'll shut up now you boys and your football teams
Emma (Wife)
PS Crap TV tonight is dancing on ice but at least Holly will be on for you haha
!) I worked 10 hours on a Saturday to catch up with work free
2) Everton threw a throw in out on the full and were given another throw in which they took 15-20yds further up the pitch and then scored
3) Henderson injured we are cursed this season
4) Everton given a penalty for kneeing Trent in the back of the bead and falling over https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1363206074753556482
5) The referee pretended to watch the replay and turned and gave the penalty
6) VAR has broken football and robbed Liverpool of at least 12 points this season
7) I've not crossdressed for 11 weeks!!
8) rubbish weekend so far
9) Yellow weather warning
10) Crap Saturday night TV
Liverpool 9 points from the last 30 lots of injuries but they need to adapt that's a poor return as they were top of the league Christmas.
I've seen young girls in this sort of get up out and about too must be mad in the cold.
I know Davina hes not happy again with Liverpool either either that or hes after a 2nd night in a row dressed up.
Have seen girls in lingerie out out a few times when we've gone out they must be freezing
Emma (Wife)
I'm all for it ๐
Interesting way to wear a basque!
The Ox Mrs I bet has nice lingerie.. He must be wearing it. His football is shocking at the moment . ..
Saw an interesting analysis from Jamie Carragher the other day, his theory is that top class striking partnerships only last 3 years max so time for Liverpool to mix it up. He also added that he thought that Klopp needs to stop his players from wearing lingerie and heels the night before games cos itโs clearly affecting their performance. Clever chap is our Jamie.
Liverpool let me down again 9 points from a possible 30 is awful
Nice morning walk up and along one of our beautiful local mountains ๐ now watching Wales v Ireland ๐ down to 14 men Ireland wreck less and dangerous that was, then Liverpool v Man City โฝ before a nice break then Chiefs v Buccaneers in the Superbowl ๐
Nice morning walk up and along one of our beautiful local mountains ๐ now watching Wales v Ireland ๐ down to 14 men Ireland wreck less and dangerous that was, then Liverpool v Man City โฝ before a nice break then Chiefs v Buccaneers in the Superbowl ๐
I donโt have good form with multi episode yarns. Breaking Bad for a couple of series was near genius, Line of Duty, a few others, but generally I fold too early. I listen to podcasts more these days. Looking for a decent one on crossdressing but there is a gap in the market there...
Couldnโt get on with Westworld Iโm afraid ๐
Loved it, saw it a few weeks ago, cool as you say !
Gorgeous clothes in that great series. Oh, erm I mean the drama was nicely written and the cinematography was spot on ๐ณ
What was the Queenโs Gambit?
Well at least now I know weโre not related, he only played rugby.
Minamino scored for Southampton.. Liverpools mistake should have sent the Ox back to Southampton..
Oh I thought you meant in a beauty pageant. Thatโs even better!
Hmm now donโt go trying to sweeten me up by telling me that Arsenal lost...thatโs a cheap shot, (even if it does cheer us all up...)
Oops. Impressed Davina.
Lot of support for Wales on here... my brother in law used to play full back for Wales (RUF). Very nice guy. Turned up to my wedding in a Karen Millen sequin frock and a tiara. Ok not really. If Iโd known I could have asked him to autograph a pair of knickers for you guys? Sorry this is getting weird, getting back into my box of earth again x
Alina I thought weโd agreed never to mention Leeds vs Crawley...ever?? Iโm still upset. My mascara is running. (And itโs not even on me).
I was in fortuventura watching in a hotel with Russians, Polish, French, Italians, Scottish, Irish and English it was fab seeing Wales do so well and mixing and having a laugh with so many nationalities. Actually went to a pub down the road for the semi final and almost had to take an Englishman to the beach and knock him out that was my threat stood up pumped up in my welsh shirt.. my alpha rage showed his Mrs that I was serious and she got him to shut up as he was abusive to my father which I warned him about and he kept on and on Esme and my mother took the kids back to the hotel as they knew I meant it too. Told the reps at the hotel about it and they asked me to describe him and they said he's a local and a pain in the backside always upsetting people. He almost got a knock out blow from a cross dresser ๐ฅ๐
@alina PS let me know when i can plant what
Want to grow Potatoes, carrots, beans, peas, maybe a cauliflower, cucumber this year
Love sport played a lot to a good level which is why my knees are probably pretty shot.
Liverpool for me because of Ian Rush my footballing idol and Welsh so glad he signed for the Red men in Liverpool and not that other lot in Manchester they'd have been so lucky to have such a brilliant marksman and hard working forward as Rushie.
I've been to watch Cardiff City a few times in the Championship and Premier League, would like to go more and hope they get back up but they need to at least try to stay there..
Davina
Ooooh, just seen this thread.
Am I allowed to talk about my allotment on here? ๐
11 months (and counting). It does creep up on you!
I get the same way when I canโt put on some heels ๐
My husband was a bit sweary last night watching Liverpool oops not happy
Emma (wife)
And Brighton
Man Chat ๐
Hey us women like football too โฝ๏ธ
My husband is happy with Liverpools return of form ๐
Liverpool on the march again ๐
@LizT Liverpool v West Ham today who's your money on?
Hmm yes, remind me never to become a professional gambler ...x
I don't think Liverpool will win tonight unless they've had some form of rocket to their backsides ... Jose will park the bus and hit on the break I expect
(I put a couple of quid on Spurs to win 2-0...oops...thinking about it again it was a dumb bet, can only see a Liverpool win. He said, covering all bases and not wanting to get chucked off this site...)
Never mind the past Liverpool desperate for a win tonight I hope the dreadful run doesn't continue. I can't believe looking at Dec and Jan fixtures they're points beind not 9-12 points ahead. Injuries and being sussed out and its underplayed the role of Henderson when on form as Captain in midfield not centre back. A Fit something different Kieta and Jota needed and centre backs.
There was a lot of bollock grabbing if I remember right. And that was before the game had started.
You could use it in one of your coaching sessions? If not in football then on martial arts or self-defence? To be fair I donโt think โDirty Leedsโ were any more reliant on extreme violence than the other top sides... x
โBlue is the Colourโ unfortunately stuck in my mind for eternity...showing my age now ๐
No good for Katie then she needs blue
No itโs white with a photo of Billy Bremner covering my arse crack...I bought it off Wayne Sleep
Is it blue?
Anyone seen my tutu?
I often say - elsewhere - that no-one has to somehow validate their dressing by only talking what are supposedly female topics, indeed our very existence proves the line between both is grey anyway but just because your male self likes sport it does not mean your female self should deny them........
I think maybe this thread would be especially good for wives to read.. We're all normal blokes doing normal bloke things and living normal bloke lives but we cross dress. Is that such a big deal. If anyone could have seen me today stubble, and a frown arguing with other National Engineers and holding and gaining ground on a discussion (argument) they'd think I was some sort of psycho.. I don't like being questioned when I've gone to the trouble of gathering the required analysis to end an argument before it even starts... But given that almost lost my voice having to explain safety and risk to top People I was a bit irate.. None of them on the Sharp end of my wrath would think... 'OH I bet he's a Crossdresser'
Feels a bit like standing at the top of fast lane on the water slide, my turn. So being a Leeds supporter doesnโt define me, I am in fact a regular bloke underneath. Married, two amazing kids, years in the booze and restaurant trade. Used to play a lot of cricket (Yorkshire of course!), tennis, squash but these days itโs mainly running and walking which enable me to drink good wine with a clearing conscience (although yesterday I started dry January, quietly confident so far). I was adopted and a few years I traced my birth family, discovering many things, not only about kith and kin whom Iโd never met, but also about myself and itโs a process still unwinding. If I had more talent, and determination, ok and ideas, Iโd like to write to earn a crust like some of my siblings. Alas I donโt got any of those things. So Iโm buggered then! Music is very much on my radar, my default taste loops habitually back to 70โs dinosaur rock though so less said the better. And thatโs all I have to say about that.