I knew I wasn't the only kinky on here .. touching your mans g spot if hes dressed as a man or a woman is not bisexual

This needs a new thread shall i start one?

Hannah (wife)

Rebecca you thinking “omg I'm getting off on this am I bisexual?” is a good point

Do any other wives think this if having sex with husbands or bf’s crossdressed? But the answer is no you’re not as under all the lingerie and makeup hes a man, but I get what you mean.

Saying to him “get on your knees and suck it” I guess you’re accepting his dressing and you’ve just asked him to do something and he wanted to please you.. Esme said something to me out of the blue one day which was a bit of a shock but also a lil kinky but shes not put a vibrator between her legs and told me to suck it off.

“is he bi does he want to suck for real” you’re his wife its a rubber one lol just a bit of fun between the two of you doesnt mean he wants to do it with a real one.

“Ok what if I held it here and thrust it somewhere else?” - Is this a progression thing as 3 wives have now admitted with blushing cheeks to have done this and I’ve admitted we’ve toyed in this area too.. why put our g spot up there!!

What you did tho Esme has said to me dont ever ask me to “do” “you” with it lol.

I don’t know why we go coy and get embarrassed about being touched or using a toy there we need to get over it lol.

Is the title right as we’ve moved onto the embarrassing chat about touching and toying the male g spot which with wives doing it is not in the least bisexual.

Davina

It's a funny and sometimes worrying one wev e had sex many times with him crossdressed and it's always been a good experience but I've sometimes thought omg I'm getting off on this am I bisexual? I mean he looks like a woman kissing touching et c and it's getting me off here's my turn to blush as a few times iv e for a toy out and held it erect between my legs and remember the first time saying to him get on your knees and suck it and he did and rather expertly too which made me think omg he just got on his knees no.questions and sucked it off is he bi does he want to.suck for real so after doing it a second time.I said would you suck for real and he said this is real it's rubber you're my wife You told me t o do something and I did it and I said but you got off on it he said yes it was exciting being told to do it when dressed but it's with me not with a man.

I took it further omg to admitting this and said ok what if I held it here and thrust it somewhere else and he said ok so we did and it got me off too holding it between my legs pushing it between his hitting his g spot which wev e now done 3 times.

Comfortable he's not bi both a little embarrassed about using a toy that way but at the time it's very empowering and enjoyable but we both go so coy after about it.

He said he never imagined his shy wife would accept his crossdressing let alone me telling him to suck a vibrator or peg him with it. There iv e typed it iv e joined the blushing gang Hannah and Emma.

Rebecca (wife)

Secrets out of the bag lol

It does feel weird (or embarrassing) it does make you feel Gay well not Gay as its not with a man just ingrained in us up the bum is gay despite it being a ridiculous place for the male gspot but at the same time OMG it feels weirdly nice to be touched there (Blush)

"Love Button" OMG LOL

Emma you dark horse you and cheeky Cow lol

I'll say it again if your wife pleasures your gspot you're not bi and yes we do have a strap on and yes used it not ashamed to say.

Try it ladies its empowering and pleasurable to both

Hannah (Wife)

Here goes hands up yes to put it blunt and sound like Hannah Yes I have fingered him and him as her and he goes 'doolally' when hes touched there and has the most intense orgasms when i doubly arouse him if you know what I mean.

Yes we've moved on from fingers and I have used a male g spot toy on him pushing the button switching up the vibrations sends him even more doolally and I enjoy seeing him squirm and get off this way he's gone through the "We shouldn't do this it's gay, I shouldn't like this it's wrong" to which I've said did you or did you not just have an intense orgasm "Yes" ok I'm your wife and its my fingers and its me using the toy on you and I expect you're used the toy on yourself (Blushed and admitted yes he had when dressed) so its not bi or gay to massage your prostage G spot. Guys it doesnt make you Bi to use sex toys of finger your G Spot and it doesnt make you Bi if you go a step further as I suspect Hannah has gone and have sex with that toy in a srtap attached to your wife (Sorry Hannah making a grand assumption here lol well you are the kinkiest here)

So you can be a tgirl and be straight and it's not your faults that God put your g spot up your ass lol

Emma (Wife) Please don't tell me that me and Hannah are the only wives to discover a mans love button lol.

Hands up yes it feels nice to be touched there and yes it's embarrassing to admit it.

What a silly place to stick the male g spot. No it's not gay agreed.

You are right as chatting to lots of t girls a lot are Bi or become Bi or whatever sexuality or is where t girls fancy other t girls. So it's not something we can ignore on this forum.

I remember your worries that your husband may be Bi and now you're both Bi.

Not something wives would be happy with i suspect.

I shall watch the video when I can.

Sexuality and the Crossdresser

As more and more people have come to appreciate and accept gender isnt binary and there are far more shades of gender than simply “1” and “0” or “man” and “woman.”

Many of the sexual preferences and orientations have long been well-known.

Issues of gender and sexuality can be confusing as people are not 100% sure about their own sexual preferences or scared to admit some attraction or scared to experiment with their own body as some things are thought of as Gay.

They make sex toys for men, you men have a g spot, its not gay to stimulate it especially if your wife or girlfriend is stimulating it but you all get so coy over it don’t you? I’m lucky my husband enjoys being stimulated there even more so when he’s crossdressed.

If you have seen or read the results of the surveys and I’ve looked this up when I feared he was Bi back last year, you will be aware that a very high percentage of men who crossdress claim to be completely heterosexual.

Some surveys put this figure at over 90%. This means that their declared sexual preference is to be with a woman. Davina has stated this.

They like to dress up as women but not to attract men.

I think having chatted to Crossdressers on skype that there is a significant element of sexuality denial involved.

Some deny that it is a sexual turn on most I think get turned on dressing.

Some crossdressers I have chatted will admit that when they have been crossdressed, they have fantasized about being with a woman, a tgirl or even a man and want to be treated as a woman, who can caress them and hold them, and who can admire them as a woman.

And some fear that if things of a sexual nature were to happen they’d let it happen.

Most Tgirls keep this as a fantasy and will probably never act on this.

The fact that they have contemplated it and if the chance really arose, they might take it is enough to convince me that the number of crossdressers who say they are 100% hetero are not! My husband fell into this bracket.

Then, we have the crossdresser who maintains he’s straight, but while Crossdressed engages in sexual activity with other crossdressers. My husband has done this.

Nothing wrong with all of this if it’s consenting and done with trust, but there’s no point to deny that your sexual preferences can change depending upon the clothes you wear and/or whether your presentation is male or female and the situation you may find youself in when you’re crossdressed.

There is nothing wrong with being bisexual or bi curious. I think most t girls have the fantasy? How many crave sex with wives and girlfriends? How many are embarased that you like to be touched and your g spot stimulated? How many would let their wives peg them? This doesn’t mean you’re gay or bi relax and enjoy it if that’s what you want. I have posted a good youtube video on this.

At the end of the day, you are what you are! There should be no guilt or shame attached to being a crossdresser or to what fantasies you come across when crossdressed.

As hard as it might be, we should simply own up to and accept the fact that none of us are 100% this or 100% that when it comes to gender and sexuality.

I suppose fears are that wives wont want to accept that you’re bisexual or have fantasies after they’ve accepted crossdressing.

I’m just rambling as my crossdresser has come out to me as Bisexual and I’ve discovered I’m Bisexual myself and can’t think that we’re the only ones.

If anything take away something from the fact touching or having someone touch your gspot isn’t gay and you can have an amazing orgasm.

Hannah (Wife)

Worst of the bible lol as is crossdressing if religious and you believe in all that.

If you're a single tgirl and you think you're bi or want to experiment as a tgirl no har m done but if married shame on you.

Younger people do seem more open about their sexuality and who they fancy maybe a change in society in the fut ure

Pansexual, bisexual.. All the worst of the bible one of Dantes rings of hell?

I think it's being normalised amongst the younger generations but also think it's always been here.

Look at the years it was illegal to be gay then watch programs on Freddy Mercury in Germany and America in the Gay nightclubs and probably pansexual partys.

It's i big deal to our generations sexuality and a straight marriage or relationship.. Will this change n the future?

Maybe this help

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/14/the-pansexual-revolution-how-sexual-fluidity-became-mainstream

No Esme has not put a falic object between her legs and told me to suck it as Davina lol.

But yes we've played with toys are you satisfied now? Lol

Davina

So you didn't say if you'd done it only if Esme told you to do it you would don't be a prude I bet you've played with toys nothing to be ashamed of lol I got him to suck mine and he looked like he knew whatbhed was doing lol. I'll stop now I'm trying to behave but I do get carried away. Sorry lol

Hannah (wife)

Go for it it's not gay as it's with your wife it's just a bit of erotic fun acting as the woman role reversal switch it on she'll get a thrill but it might break your teeth lol.

Hannah

If Esme was to do that i couldn't refuse as if she did put a falic object between her legs and say suck it it would be the kinkiest thing shes ever done so id be down there yes miss Esme lol

Oh Davina i call your she s never asked and raise you assuming Esm e has a Falic object trying to keep it clean and you're dressed and she puts it between her legs and tells you to give it a BJ would you?

I can confirm I've not done that with Esme... she's never asked 🤣🍡

And come on is he the only one?

Update I showed him what I posted he said I was still drunk from new years eve to post that and that he's now embarrassed now you all know he performed oral sex on a sex toy held between my legs hahaha I feel so evil lol

There's a queue on tvchix asking if I'm into anything other than just chatting to others.

I have seen lots of t girls I've chatted to over the years trying things in what Katie calls situationally bi scenarios and enjoying it.

I think it safe to say wives who enjoy a sexy time when their other halves are dressed run less risk of their crossdresser being tempted to the dark side.

I knew Emma was a wife who enjoyed the sexy side but didn't realise she was so kinky lpl

Morning Emma, and a happy new year, please don't be embarrassed, if I'm honest about it, this is the sort of relationship i hope to achieve with my own wife, wheather it will ever be? I probably very much doubt it!! But you never know how events turn out.

Myself i regard myself as straight, I've been propositioned by other t-girls on tvchix and I've turned them down, one particularly keen girl wanted to meet in a hotel, despite me telling her i was married, she was asking for more revealing photo's, it did nothing for me...

I wasn't interested in her, mainly because i didn't find her attractive but also she was pushy and came across as desperate.

Two things occurred to me from that encounter, one was it struck me how lonely a lot of T-girls are, the other was that the image i portray as Catriona is very powerfull and for the first time in my life I experienced the power that a woman has over a man when it comes to sex, it's a very strange feeling to think i could probably of made that t-girl do almost anything I wanted, I'd go as far as to say i found it a slight turn on to know i could possibly be a CD Dominatrix. I originally assumed that because i liked to wear womens clothes and sexy underware i would be a submissive sissy! But this may not be the case, in fact i could probably be a "Switch" but not entirely sure, it's very confusing.

But one thing i deffinatly know is for me to be interested in another crossdresser or trans woman, they would have to be very convincing and even then i would have to not only be attracted to them in a visual way, I'd have to find them attractive as a person.

Cat xxx

Ooops

I just read it back wait till he reads what I typed lol

Two of us embarrased

Confession is good for the soul!

My view is if you're Bisexual it's no ones fault but i read how some tgirls don't fancy men so not bi in that sense but fancy other t girls after all some tgirls do look the part so can see why it depends on if it's acted on or if it's a fantasy.

As I said we play as girls and I've pretended to be a man and he played along but found it a bit weird and we've played as girls and omg here goes I put a toy in my knickers and he got quite turned on and I can't believe I'm telling You this I told him to suck it and he did I'm blushing here must be Hannah being back I blame you Hannah.

What am I trying to say something along the lines of keeping your sex life and fantasies together or they may look for them elsewhere

I suppose is what I mean and it can be fun to improvise and tease a little.

Esme you know Davinas vice is your legs in black tights so I imagine stocking would really do it for him lol.

We hold the power bad to say but their guilt for dressing gives us some power over them.

Emma (wife) Embaraced by this post

Is that a simplistic view Hannah as you've accepted your husbands and your own sexuality?

I would think Esme most unhappy if I came out as Bisexual as Davina.

I do agree that a lot of tgirls I chat to fret over sexuality at some point.

Don't worry about bisexuality it's just sex and fun with each other

You tgirl s worry too much that you may be bisexual you only live once if you have bi thoughts Don t worry

Interesting that Sindy raised this

My husband coming out stating he may be binas a tgirl has nothing to do with attention from me i accomodate and enjoy him crossdressed and we have a good sex life.

I think its just fantasy and how he thinks he feels as a tgirl liking the attention more than hed really do anything.

Reading back on ypur blog chat page Sarah and her wife actually broke up and went seperate ways for a bit she Went off with a man he dabbled with a t girl as a tgirl and says hes straight the god news is they got back together so a pity Sarah has not joined the forum.

Im fine witH fantasy including fantasy chat its reality id draw the line on.

HANNAH (Wife)

Ps Ive tried cyber sex myself it can be fun and yes i told him and he didnt mind.

I thought we'd covered this before here's what we said last time Hannah

Sarah a t girl was on the blog and a bit of a regular but not sure if she's made it to the Forum

Nice to see our views seem the same today as they were back before i set up the forum and copied this all in here from the blog pre April 17

By: Katie

Subject: Re: Re: Is being bi-sexual really an issue?

I do think that things can get a little blurred at times and society really only likes binary options otherwise it gets confused.

Maybe a better question for wives is 'Are you bi-sexual?' as opposed to 'Are you gay?'.

So. If you don't know the attractive woman standing by the bar is really a man you're straight. If you then and out she is really a he and still find her attractive then are you bi-sexual / gay?

If you become intimate are you bi-sexual or gay?

If she is transitioning and has boobs and a penis are you still bi-sexual / gay?

It all get very difficult.

I watch a TV series called Ladyboys where 'straight men' lived with Thai ladyboys at various stages of transition. They all considered themselves straight even though friends and family didn't necessarily feel the same.

I found Shea in Transparents very attractive. In a different life I would probably be happy to date her. But if she still had a penis I'd find it difficult - thinking Hangover III here!

I guess it's what each of us find acceptable and attractive. I find femininity attractive and that is what I look for in a woman. I guess that probably goes for 99% of the heterosexual male population.

Going back to the lesbian fantasy I think that men think women are far more flexible about their sexuality than men which seems to be backed up by the stats which say women are three time more likely to be bi-sexual than men. It's also the alpha male thing 'If I find her attractive then surely she will too'. Men can't always see things from a female point of view. I guess that filters through to the crossdresser saying 'I find myself attractive as dressed as a woman so why shouldn't my wife'.

It's all very much to your own and provided everyone in consenting then t hat shouldn't be a problem. It's when conflict occurs that it all breakdown.

By: Sindy

Subject: Re: Is being bi-sexual really an issue?

Davina is probably right that most straight women don't have a gay male fantasy lol. I know I don't lol! I actually dated a bisexual guy at college and learned to regret it when he kept trying to include me with other men. I just don't get this fantasy! But almost all my ex boyfriends AND my husband have the lesbian fantasy, and I'm pretty sure my husband is the only crossdresser in that lot. So men are definitely more flexible about their partners sexuality.

So, in saying that, are men in general more sexually flexible? Because I honestly thought heterosexual meant you're just not interested in your same gender sexually. Like, ever! So flirting with other TGirls when cross dressed just doesn't sound like a hetero behavior to me....BUT, that doesn't make it a BAD behavior. It's just not straight in the accepted sense. So you're probably more bi leaning than you're prepared to admit and that's part of the sexuality continuum. I have zero problem with any sexuality.

I just don't agree with saying you're one thing and then doing another if you're in a relationship with a partner. And yes, I would personally consider my husband flirting with other crossdressers as a line too far in our marriage.

And I would think transwomen should be attractive to men but hey, I'm not a guy. If a fully transitioned transman was sexually appealing to me when I was single, then yep, I wouldn't have had a problem. I'm attracted 100% to men and I consider them men. Some are really hot too! But would I have considered a woman crossdressed as a man?? Never. It grosses me out as I am straight and a costume can't change the fact it's a woman!

My guess? Many crossdressers are bisexual men who oddly don't accept this reality because they only like men when they're presenting as a female. OR the man is dressed as a woman. The justification is that presentation and pretence makes them straight.

No, a penis in a vagina makes you straight. Two penises makes you not straight. Okay? Simple, lol.

But figure this out before marriage...because women expect a heterosexual husband if that's who he sells her, and it's very difficult to accept anything else after the wedding day, and it will be seen as betrayal.

By: Emma RG

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is being bi-sexual really an issue?

Ok I'll be the first wife to break radio silence on this one.

Each to their own, sexuality is what it is we can't help it and suppressing it causes stress but it can and will always be hard for loved ones to cope with as it's so stigmatised.

My view is it is what it is and Davina is right as long as my other half isn't but he said the same in that he wouldn't care in I was bisexual must be an Alpha male fantasy to have a bi wife with that 3some fantasy which Ain't gonna happen.

Maybe I am a little bit bi myself as I do find him attractive when he's dressed he looks nothing like the man I married the makeup the wig mannerisms etc really transform him into her and maybe that's made it easier for me to deal with.

My question is is it the sexuality or acting on it ?

So say your crossdressing husband had flirty dirty sex chat with other t girls? Ok I'd not be too happy finding the other half getting off doing that but it's not physical as opposed to those who meet and get up to whatever they get up to which is cheating and that's the deal breaker for me.

By: CLAIRETgirl

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Is being bi-sexual really an issue?

I'm not bisexual!

Similar to what Davina typed I can appreciate the female form even if it is a man in a dress you have to admit there are some stunning looking Tgirls.

I've seen Davinas profile pic on TVChix she's a stunner herself.

It's just flirty suggestive chat nothing real and I've told my wife this. I'd never do any of it for real so I repeat I'm not Bisexual just for flirty chatting when dressed.

By: Sarah T girl

Subject: Re: Re: Is being bi-sexual really an issue?

More of a fling than anything and I was quite drunk I don't look half bad as a woman and she looked quite hot it happened it was a weak moment frustration poured out so class me as Bisexual but it's not something I'm looking for again it was a fling if I'm in that situation again and it feels ok maybe I'd do it again who knows spur of the moment.

Don't class myself Bi though but bet most will.

I don't fancy men.

By: Davina

Subject: Re: Is being bi-sexual really an issue?

Sorry for not posting for a while a bit to catch up with in here but UBER busy work got even busier... Right onto the drunken post and my analysis of this phenomenon in chatting to lots of T-Girls...

Yep just read that Claire mentioned about having bi-sexual fantasies whilst dressed and Sarah has told us shes been out dressed and ended up doing things with another T-Girl in what we'd all construe as bi-sexual acts.

Does this make them 'bad' people as far a heterosexual women are concerned?

This is a good question... In chatting lots of Tgirls "Flirt" as Tgirls in character and many have fantasies and the answer from women I've chatted to about this is "they're closet bisexuals" but most don't act on it and most have these little fantasies about sex dressed with a woman or sex chat with other t girls with the attraction still being that of the image of a woman and Tgirls wearing things were attracted to, making effort to look fem etc.. these Tgirls are straight as far as I'm concerned as they've not done anything physical just typed things role played... Sarah on the other hand has acted them out as Katie has said bisexual things but Ive chatted to her she doesn't regret finding out how it feels when she was dressed with another t girl but she says shes not bisexual and heres the double dutch as she puts it she was with a tgirl not a man knowing it is a man but would not be attracted one bit to the man if he wasn't crossdressed ergo a new sexuality one where someone is attracted to a trans person knowing he/shes a man but doing it anyway..

I'd love to see some female thoughts on that.

If my wife had fantasies about being with a woman it wouldn't worry me in the slightest either infact i'd be turned on by it.. but she wont touch Davina so I guess my wife doesn't have that fantasy..Unless someone tells us different it's a male fantasy but I'm now intrigued...do women feel the same? Do they find two men erotic? or keeping the theme of the blog two tgirls? (lol as long as its not your husband)..

Two men does nothing for me either Katie but I can see an attraction in a man dressed as a woman as some Tgirls look amazing so can see how people can be attracted that doesn't make someone bisexual.. I cant really look at a man and say hes attractive or good looking but can see when a woman says hes good looking about a man ok that's what good looking is to that particular woman.

Is being with a fully transitioned woman a heterosexual relationship? I would say hell yes it is..

If I wasn't married would I feel comfortable dating a man who was transitioning to be a woman? tricky one impulse answer is no i'd not feel comfortable dating a transitioning MTF but fully transitioned I don't know the Alpha in me says no.

Agreed seeing as we are part of the Trans community as Crossdressers it is a bit shameful on our part that we'd find it difficult to accept a transwoman as a women in the way described above.

Being different is tough and sexuality a funny thing which if its not affecting you is OK eg Sarahs wife would be mortified to find out Sarah is now classing as a Bi Tgirl but expect she could accept there are Bi Tgirls as long as her husband isn't one but I suspect there are Bi men married their wives unsuspecting.. a different kind of Bi? attracted to me as opposed to Sarah attracted to the fem image when dressed herself.. Its very complicated isn't it..

Being a Married Alpha Straight crossdresser is simple in comparison to being a Bi Tgirl or transwoman - Its like Crossdressing is just tame dress up or fancy dress in comparison.

So Is being bisexual really an issue?

If my wife was Bi id have no problem with it but suspect its not the same for women if asked the same question id expect women to say OMG No! I suspect theyre repulsed by two men or two t girls or a tgirl and a man but we may soon find out and think some will say each to their own as long as its not my man.

I used to be very homophobic but now I'm more chilled about it it happens theres nothing I can do to about it love is love and also agree with Sarah maybe a new tag is needed a new description in sexuality for bi tgirls maybe there already is one?

By: Katie

Subject: Is being bi-sexual really an issue?

Ok. This is drunken post and but something I've been stewing on for a few days.

Claire mentioned about having bi-sexual fantasies whilst dressed. Sarah has taken it one step further and actually engaged in what I'd consider bi-sexual acts.

Does this make them 'bad' people as far a heterosexual women are concerned?

I know that if my wife said she'd had fantasies about being with a woman it wouldn't worry me in the slightest. Even if she'd had lesbian relationships in the past it wouldn't bother me. Maybe it's a male fantasy but do women feel the same? Do they find two men erotic?

Two men does nothing for me and a man dressed as a woman doesn't work for me either. However, I'm not sure where the line should be drawn.

Is being with a fully transitioned woman a heterosexual relationship? If I wasn't married would I feel comfortable dating a man who was transitioning to be a woman? At what point does it stop being homosexual and become a heterosexual relationship? I'm not sure I could get my head round it and I like to think that I pretty tolerant and accepting of individuals.

It's probably shameful on my part that I'd find it difficult to accept a transwoman as a women. I watch Transparent and I found Shea very attractive. A real woman but she's not. She used to be a man and reading about her it breaks my heart. She can't find love because heterosexual men find it difficult to love a transwoman. Maybe it takes a special kind of man to love a transwoman.

Being different is tough. Being a crossdresser is simple in comparison to being a transwoman. But we still find it difficult to find women to love us for who we are.

People sit at various point along the gender and sexual spectrum. Should they be judged if they don't fit the norm?

Sorry just a few things to get off my chest.

By: Davina

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Other t girls...

It's a strange one but I mention it as so many tgirls I chat to who tell me they are bisexual give an explaination somewhere along the lines of I didn't want to be bi but felt compelled to find out and felt driven to it.

The matrix take the blue pill and stay as you are or the red pill and no looking back..

By: Sarah Tgirl

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Other t girls...

Sex would be nice but I just want her to make an effort to look nice for me I feel like a chewing gum stuck to her foot that's how much she thinks about how I feel and all I ask is she makes the same effort for me as she makes for her friends.

Am I asking too much or am I nuts?

By: Sindy

Subject: Re: Re: Other t girls...

I thought I'd also throw in about your wife dressing for a girls night and not for you. Again, the priority list. The friends don't want anything from her so no agenda. She can just dress nice for herself so she can feel good for a change. She dresses for you and sex is back on the table. Again...for many moms in the playground this is WAAAAY down the list.

Sad but true.

Blame your offspring. :-)

By: Katie

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Other t girls...

All true!

By: Sindy

Subject: Re: Re: Other t girls...

Wrote a response in the other post too but will write here as well.

I know the robot thing well! Don't kids do a number on a marriage. Like, wow, why don't we all get some sort of written warning what it will be like. I think I'm loving your marriage too only boy my husband and I still care how we look etc, though I've ditched heels and skirts for whatever is not dirty and in the. ENORMOUS laundry pile.

Kids. Kill. Intimacy.

That's the written warning we all need lol.

I'd still have the little critters anyway, but it would have been nice to know this is how it would be. Robots organising the kids days. So I do feel your pain A LOT! And maybe cybersex is a non cheaters way of getting through. Your wife probably doesn't want sex because kids very often kill that desire. Seriously, don't feel alone there. It's this bizarrely common playground topic that most moms are not sleeping with their husbands and if they are it's reluctantly. And that's not because they suddenly hate sex with him! It's because we're all so damn exhausted and tapped out and worn out that sex has dropped down to the bottom of the priority list. Waaaaaaay down there, and a vibrator (excuse the graphic details here as I'm usually quite prudish lol) is just damn easier.

It's kids. Some people breeze through with the same relationship as they started with. The rest of us end up feeling like we're married to a robot, house sharing, irritating, doesn't pull their weight, needs to pay more rent, lump that we sort of remember liking once upon a time.

Marriage and kids really need to come with a warning. And here I was thinking crossdressing was a problem!! LOL!

By: Sarah Tgirl

Subject: Re: Other t girls...

Hi Sindy thanks for your perspective But I don't do the cyber sex thing because my wife won't dress sexy for me any more although this might help.

I do dress because my wife doesn't bother to dress nice for me but she will dress nice if she's out with her friends out comes the lippy and heels and a dress now that is mind numbingly annoying like she makes that effort for them but sod me? I'm taken for granted and I do most of the house work and more so there's no excuse of bringing up the kid's? She had our little one had 12 months off work! Whilst I worked overtime to make up for it so ts not all bad for women.

I'm not anti women's lib but hell women don't have it as hard as they used to.

There are other reasons I dress too its fun, relaxing, turns me on to wear sexy lingerie and it feels nice and looks nice and I've done it for so long it's part of my life hey I dress up as a woman and i dress up like my ideal woman. The urge has got stronger and my dressing more frequent since she joined the flat shoe no makeup women's brigade.

The cyber sex stuff well that's just a bit of dirty fantasy.

I say I'm bi although never touched another man and probably wont ever but have had cyber sex with men and t girls its all fantasy stuff which I think is harmless me getting off them getting off what does it matter were just getting off.

A bit of porn sometimes is that cheating too?

They like how in look as a tgirl sometimes I like how they look and men well non dressers or admirers they're easy to get off although for me they do nothing I prefer the image of a woman to tgirl.

I'm not getting anything from my wife no intimacy at all were like robots up kid to school work home cook tidy up tv sleep up kid to school work you get it

should I go celebste as she doesn't want sex or should I go find it physically its a no brainer a bit of fantasy fun and if she had cyber sex well for one id say we don't have sex but you do cyber but I'd not be against her having cyber sex in fact it would be a fun thing to do together it can be a good tease so I wouldn't be bothers if she did it.

There is no logic and as expected a wife's perspective booom how is it the same if I have cyber sex im not meeting physically but Sindy says likewise surly she's allowed to sleep with other men as crossdressing is a turn off? Would wives go and do this? Do wives do this? This puts a bit of cyber sex into perspective.

There is reasoning behind men who seek cyber sex if they are in a sexless marriage with a wife who won't even discuss it sexual frustration isn't good.