By: Katie

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Down here on the south coast the Gay Pride march is a huge event. Most of the people who watch the parade aren't gay and they just go because of the carnival atmosphere.

I never really considered it a protest, more of a celebration and big party. It also brings a wedge of money into the city!

I don't think that many 'Davina' type crossdressers attend. It's mainly drag queens looking fabulous darling!

Besides walking that far in heels just isn't going to work!

By: Davina

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Several new Blogs

I know you aren't trying to offend any gay men or lesbian women but sometimes people can read what you mean differently as I have found on many forums and the simplest thing can cause a flare up and complaints and flounces.

Maybe one day Crossdressers will gain similar acceptance to other minority types who are now able to live their lives out in the open.

Who would have thought Gay people would have the right to marriage back in the 1960's and adopt.

There is still homophobia out there and I agree it doesn't seem to be as bad as it was quite a few years ago.

I'm not homophobic, but dont like to see men kissing - Women kissing is ok though lol ..

People can live however they want and love whomever they want but I do get a little wound up by the Gay Pride marches as I doubt you and I could walk down the street with flags for pride at being straight married men as we'd be labelled trouble makers, biggots and homophobic.

I've had this conversation with a lesbian who declared she'd been to the Cardiff Gay Pride march and I asked why they do it?

Cause the havoc of blocking roads and getting in peoples way and said what if I got friends and family and collegues from work together and had a march with flags stating "We're Straight and we're Proud" and she said...

"You cant do that it would be homophobic!"

I said "So are you Straightophobic?".. Its not even a word.

Political correctness is a one way system.

I hate hearing people call someone Gay also and the same as you will tell my kids off using it as a derogatory word to tease or be nasty towards someone but we hear it all the time.

I was in a meeting yesterday and crossdressing came up twice in conversation in jest.. maybe I'm not the only crossdresser in work lol.

Crossdressing can also be used as a derogatory word but

who cares about upsetting crossdressers?

The T in LGBT may be something to do with the t being a minority group joining forces to get a voice but its what associates crossdressing in Wives and GFs minds with it being sexuality motivated which it isn't.

I've been invited to an LGBT meeting in work as part of the union to which I'm a member - it was a scatter gun email they don't know I crossdress but I as above are they having a conference and spending my union fees on meetings for straight members "nope"..

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By: Katie

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Several new Blogs

I don't intend to offend any gay men or lesbian women either. I admire that way that they are now able to live their lives out in the open and although I understand that there is still homophobia out there it doesn't seem to be as bad as it was quite a few years ago. That said my sister worries about her son being a gay man in London.

I do hate the term 'gay' being used as an insult. It's bandied around from a young age, I even had to have a word with my kids about using it in a derogatory way. They didn't really understand that they were being in anyway insulting as it was only being used in a jokey way amongst there friends but if it becomes accepted then it will only be perpetuated in later life as acceptable, which leads to the problems I've already described.

As I said it's the older generations who have trouble with adapting to the changes in society but the younger generation are more accepting once they reach a certain maturity.

I think the T in LGBT is more to do with another minority group joining forces to get a voice rather than anything to do with sexuality. I also think the T is more to do with Trans than crossdressing because as a group we are generally very secretive.

I think that most women would be happy with a gay 'best friend' and again are pretty accepting of crossdressers when they meet them. The problem is as you say it's the NIMBY approach.

Putting myself in my wife's shoes probably isn't the right metaphor here but I do try to understand it from her point of view. It is difficult because it is something I've grown up with whereas it is relatively new to her and she will have been exposed to all of societies prejudices.

By: Davina

Subject: Re: Re: Several new Blogs

I avoided a lot of the Gay men this and Lesbians that in my replies as didn't want to get in trouble with Webnode or offend any Gay Crossdressers with things I'm not in tune with like I don't go into any depth on any Trans label further on the spectrum than myself

However it seems the T on LGB"T" has been added loosely bolted on and I don't know why as I've said before the LGB is a sexuality the Trans bit isn't but it's not really for us Crossdressers it's more the mainstream accepted Trans people more of whom seem to be Gay or Bisexual with stronger reasons for being trans than our bit of fun and escapism.

Mainstream Trans are more accepted we are the outcasts by Gay, Straight and other Trans people.

I get what you mean about the way Lesbians style themselves and our preferred Lipstick Lesbian view lol and know a few like you describe who I might well think are Trans Lesbian as they dress and style themselves like men (My wife even thought one person was a man until I told her she was a woman and a lesbian but I very much doubt this person would call herself Trans)

I also see how Gay men can do what they like in terms of fasion and us straight men are stuck with the minimalistic clothing.

Being Gay is something which acceptance via the politically correct brigade and even government and the churches has helped to propel at a rate of speed over the last 50 years but Crossdressing is still frowned upon and misunderstood.

Women love a Gay man but would not want their BFs or Husbands to be Bisexual or Gay and my wife has said similar with regard to crossdressing if she knew a guy crossdressed say her friend told her her BF or husband crossdressed she says she'd be ok with that but less so with me crossdressing.

Sexuality has nothing to do with our Crossdressing I love Women, love my wife and the fem image - I don't fancy men.

However it seems inevitable that people will and do associate us with a sexuality

By: Katie

Subject: Re: Several new Blogs

You have been busy.

I agree that a lot of the "If I wanted to...' would only apply whilst crossdressed but gay men can get away with it in normal life. I've seen plenty with painted nails and makeup which is why it get's treated as 'gay'. As I said it seems that gay men have broken the women's monopoly by pushing the boundaries.