We are all different thise like the new TV as in television on factory settings are what i believe you call muggles haha and cant see that society can and should be much more diverse and understanding if its fetish hobby or whatever even sexuality which ive given much thought and concluded that we may both be a little bi but I wont go into it here So yes you can fancy another crossdresSer and how she looks and be straight and you can if you wish harbour fantasies but youre not bi or gay unless you do the physical
When I saw the sliders I thought of a mixing desk. Every bit of who you are is controlled by where about the slider is. I guess it's also like the settings on a TV. Contrast, colour, volume etc. There is a factory setting but people will change it to suit themselves. How often do you go into a room at somebody else's house and think the people on TV look orange! (Trump). I know whenever I watch TV my wife always tells me to turn down the volume lol.
What a cute and informative gingerbread man! lol. I wonder about the bottom one, the attraction and how it is men/males/masculinity and women/females/femininity. Where do crossdressers fit? You're more men/males/femininity...
I see Katie mentioned transparent in another post do you have a secret crush Katie lol
Im Not much interested in microcheating adding a heart or kiss emoji to a text etc is not Cheating
So Count 3 Wives not plussed by chat and cyber Chat
Id only call it cheating if it became regular with one person or iF they actually met and got physical thats cheating.
I mentioned on another post ive tried cyber sex it can be fun just random strangers sounded out and sometimes sexy chat can happen suggestive stuff its harmless and healthy to have fantasy the kind sex with a stranger will never happen but is a fantasy of mine..
Typing this on a train commuting to work hope no ones rading this
Have you ever private-messaged someone online and kept it from your partner?
According to an Australian psychologist, a range of actions, including having a secret online conversation and leaving heart emojis on a friend's Facebook post, might be seen as micro-cheating.
It comes down to "seemingly small actions that indicate a person is emotionally or physically focused on someone outside their relationship".
Its led to some Twitter satire
So my wife has micro cheated via whattsapp sending a suggestive message to a male friend of ours and ive done it too sending a similar message with his wife oops We're micro cheaters according to the article?
But both aware of the messages with close friends we have a laugh and a lot of sarcasm and jokes with.
A quick google and 100% of responses on articles say cyber sex is cheating With 100% of responses to articles women
Is this something we need a new thread on? Is it crossdressing or a relationship thing or another habit altogether?
I bet men and woman here will have a different opinion and as hannah and Emma have posted theres fantasy and reality? does thIs cover on line chatting also?
I dont think much of it to me its not cheating and an interesting comparison to bdsm books and so called romance novels with racy covers i see on my kindle app
I chat on tvchix and mostly its about crossdressing and wives acceptance etc actually its more about sport movies politics and how stressed we all are but some try to instigAte sex talk Remember the spectrum 1-6 woman to Man and 1-6 gay to straight You come against many in the spectrum of varying positions on this scale and you can ignore them or humour them.
Interesting two wives non plussed by what the article calls micro cheating whats other wives and tgirls views?
I showed my husband Courtney Act he thought it was Pamela Anderson lol
Youve had an interesting few days Hannah and looks like had some support here
I have no problem my husband saying he thinks another t girl looks pretty or is attractive and no problem with fantasies but would have a problem if he actually did something sexual with a man or woman or a tgirl as thats cheating let alone whatever sexuality it would mean he is.
Cyber sex chatting is harmless fantasy too i feel although he said he doesnt do it but who knows if they do or dont ive told him if he does i dont care just be honest about it.
Men are very visual and have many fantasies ie read a bit about cyber sex on line some women say uts cheating but its just some cheap thrill tease thing they do I will have to find the article as one was men and women and one was about trans Cyber sex doesnt really bother me i dont think its cheating
Comfortable him saying he fancies other tgirls in The way he can look at another tgirl and find how she looks attractive that's fine.
Also comfortable him having fantasies as long as he doesn't act on it physically.
Sexy chat I asked him last night he said he has had cyber sex with people in chat rooms saying most chats go that way either admirers or other t girls and it's just a cheap thrill e said it was like me reading one of my bdsm romance novels but with interaction with someone else.
Again in ok with this its not real it's just cyber chat.
So finding another tgirl attractive no it does not make you anything but if you did anything physical with another tgirl or a Man in person then it's cheating and proba ly bisexual.
Wow Hannah youve had a good chat i showed my other half the pic of Courtney Act he didnt know who she was and said wow lol
I think theres fantasy and realist and some fantasy which is double fantasy like single fantasy you might do double fantasy no way and think its healthy to have fantasies.
You did kind of pimp him on cam But i Can get my head round tgirls liking how other tgirls look as some look amazing but that doesnt effect their sexuality
Then theres bi curiosity but are they thinking as women when dressed up
I asked the other half if hes ever chatred to others and he said yes as i know he does but i asked had anyone ever chatred him up in chat And he said yes quite often so i asked how it made him feel and he said rather sheepishly it made him feel good to be admired as a woman
i said 1 gay 6 Straight where are you he said 6
If youre happy with him as a 5 and know hes loyal dont worry about it?
Does he have sexy chats my husband asked and how do you feel if he does?
Looks like you've had a good chat glad that Katie and myself may have helped in some way.
I think there's fantasy and reality and as long as fantasy stays fantasy there's no problem if you're ok with that and sounds like you are.
If 6 is straight and 5.5 is a tgirl who can look at other girls and say wow then im a 5.5 too but as a bloke I can look at a tgirl and say wow.. You see a woman visually and the wow comes from youre looking at what looks like a woman and when i dress i try my best to look like a woman and sometimes look at myself and say wow lo "Youre so vane.." So still a 6 but will say I used to be homophobic but my views have changed over the years as love is love sex is sex live and let live.
If I knew she was a man then I couldn't kiss her. If I knew she used to be a man I'm still not sure I could kiss her. I think that only after knowing someone for a while could I get past the 'she used to be a man' stage.
I had this dilema when watching Transparent. The actor Trace Lysette is absolutely stunning.
Could I kiss her knowing she used to be a man?
I'd like to think if I met her I could look on her as a woman.
Maybe not fully answered your question but as the article said it's down to perception.
Ok i've added to two other posts already this morning now an update on his revelation.
Reading the Courtney Act post he said as a man hes a 6 man on the scale of 1 woman and 6 man but as a tgirl hes a 5.5 as a part time crossdresser in terms of gender if Courtney is a 4 making a living out of pretending to be a woman and a 5 in terms of his sexuality as a tgirl comparing to Courtneys open bisexuality as a 4 with 1 being totally gay and as a man hes a 6 totally straight.
So i looked up more pictures of Courtney Act like the one below and asked if he fancied her to which i expected a yes as she is stunningly beautiful and very sexy so i said would you kiss her as a t girl yourself looking at her he said sheepishly yes so i said you know shes a he do you still kiss her and he said yes as she looks so sexy so i said would you do it for real ie cheat on me he said i dont know but i dont want to cheat on you so probably not ok i felt we are getting somewhere in some of the posts on here and the article is it purely visual ie a sexy looking woman which is really a man but visually stunning and him crossdressed he would kiss her / him but doesnt want to cheat on me so curious but bi curios? as wouldn't do it as a man but would as a woman hang on so i said would you kiss her as a man he said yes ok so still knowing hes a man you'd kiss him no matter how you presented and he said to me she is beautiful id kiss her so it is purely visual and theoretical and not likely to happen.
There are more racy photos of Ms Act on the google image search i wont post here as this is a clean site nothing pornographic more suggestive ie the one of her legs open and a man positioned between her legs may well be a doctor examining her or the photo may be more racy as it actually is so i said ok youre with ms Act and in that position what would you do and i cant repeat what he said hed do or be doing to her i will leave to your adult imiaginations and he said thats why i say i think as a tgirl im bisexual as i might do that.
The word might as in if he were in that position which is unlikely with Ms Act and also unlikely with another tgirl as when he dresses hes dressed at home mainly but does have the odd trip away in a hotel with work but he said he'd never intentionally meet up with other t girls alone without me there thus avoiding this situation and temptation entirely.
I have some relief for want of a better word that he isnt going to meet other t girls as doesn't want to find himself in a sexually charged predicament alone with another tgirl in case some sexual attraction happens and he doesnt want to cheat on me so i guess im getting my head around being ok with him fancying other t girls and holding some sexual fantasies about being dressed with other t girls.
We had a good chat about it and he confessed when I've made him chat on web cam he gets turned on if people find him attractive and wont get into trouble over this here again but he said it makes him feel more fem to be desired which in turn turns him on and seeing him turned on actually turns me on but i'll stop there.
So in terms of his sexuality as a tgirl hes a 5 out of 6 not totally straight but not looking to do anything about it other than a fantasy so i guess i'm open minded enough to be ok with it thanks girls problem solved but i'd like to hear what Emma, Esme, rebecca and Sindy have to say on the subject would you be happy your husbands not being a 6 totally straight when crossdressed with 5 being borderline bi or maybe fantiase about it as a tgirl and 4 being openly bi if thats a good way to pose a question?
Davina as you like how t girls look in your other post about Courtney Act would you say youre 5.5 gender as you crossdress and a 5.5 sexuality as you appreciate even fancy some t girls in their photos? and what about you Katie or are you both staunchly 6 straight alpha male red blooded men? Sorry to put you on the spot but i'm sure Esme would want to know (wicked me)
As i said i can look at a picture of a beautiful woman and think wow shes stunning and you can say actually its a man crossdressed and ill still say wow shes stunning.. Maybe as im a crossdresser maybe men who dont dress would cough and say omg disgusting .. But that doesnt make me bisexual.
On tvchix you can vote 1-10 on someones profile picture .. Ive given lots of 10s not as i fancy them but i give a 10 for effort if i think they look convincing or have made a good effort to look like a woman but again not gonna jump in bed with one of them.
Hannah needs to ask if he means hes bi or if he finds the image attractive and see how she feels about whatever answer he gives her... Its not the end of the world even if he is bi as long as hes faithful.
When a wife says she isn't a lesbian it is because she is percieving us as female when we're dressed and therefore has no sexual attraction. It doesn't matter what we have between our legs it is the perception that counts.
Equally when Hannah's husband said he found some Tgirls attractive is doesn't mean he is gay or even bi it means he is attracted to women unlless he percieves the T girl as male and is still attracted then he maybe bisexual.
Maybe you could write a book called 50 shades of purple - Blue (male) mixed with Pink (female) = Purple! It all depends what shade of purple you are -
We are all different thise like the new TV as in television on factory settings are what i believe you call muggles haha and cant see that society can and should be much more diverse and understanding if its fetish hobby or whatever even sexuality which ive given much thought and concluded that we may both be a little bi but I wont go into it here So yes you can fancy another crossdresSer and how she looks and be straight and you can if you wish harbour fantasies but youre not bi or gay unless you do the physical
Hannah (wife)
When I saw the sliders I thought of a mixing desk. Every bit of who you are is controlled by where about the slider is. I guess it's also like the settings on a TV. Contrast, colour, volume etc. There is a factory setting but people will change it to suit themselves. How often do you go into a room at somebody else's house and think the people on TV look orange! (Trump). I know whenever I watch TV my wife always tells me to turn down the volume lol.
In caveman terms "me man me fancy women"
What a cute and informative gingerbread man! lol. I wonder about the bottom one, the attraction and how it is men/males/masculinity and women/females/femininity. Where do crossdressers fit? You're more men/males/femininity...
I am hungry now. I need to go find a biscuit.
Thought this was interesting:
I see Katie mentioned transparent in another post do you have a secret crush Katie lol
Im Not much interested in microcheating adding a heart or kiss emoji to a text etc is not Cheating
So Count 3 Wives not plussed by chat and cyber Chat
Id only call it cheating if it became regular with one person or iF they actually met and got physical thats cheating.
I mentioned on another post ive tried cyber sex it can be fun just random strangers sounded out and sometimes sexy chat can happen suggestive stuff its harmless and healthy to have fantasy the kind sex with a stranger will never happen but is a fantasy of mine..
Typing this on a train commuting to work hope no ones rading this
Hannah (wife)
Just reading the news on BBc website and saw this
Have you ever private-messaged someone online and kept it from your partner?
According to an Australian psychologist, a range of actions, including having a secret online conversation and leaving heart emojis on a friend's Facebook post, might be seen as micro-cheating.
It comes down to "seemingly small actions that indicate a person is emotionally or physically focused on someone outside their relationship".
Its led to some Twitter satire
So my wife has micro cheated via whattsapp sending a suggestive message to a male friend of ours and ive done it too sending a similar message with his wife oops We're micro cheaters according to the article?
But both aware of the messages with close friends we have a laugh and a lot of sarcasm and jokes with.
A quick google and 100% of responses on articles say cyber sex is cheating With 100% of responses to articles women
Is this something we need a new thread on? Is it crossdressing or a relationship thing or another habit altogether?
I bet men and woman here will have a different opinion and as hannah and Emma have posted theres fantasy and reality? does thIs cover on line chatting also?
I dont think much of it to me its not cheating and an interesting comparison to bdsm books and so called romance novels with racy covers i see on my kindle app
I chat on tvchix and mostly its about crossdressing and wives acceptance etc actually its more about sport movies politics and how stressed we all are but some try to instigAte sex talk Remember the spectrum 1-6 woman to Man and 1-6 gay to straight You come against many in the spectrum of varying positions on this scale and you can ignore them or humour them.
Interesting two wives non plussed by what the article calls micro cheating whats other wives and tgirls views?
I showed my husband Courtney Act he thought it was Pamela Anderson lol
Youve had an interesting few days Hannah and looks like had some support here
I have no problem my husband saying he thinks another t girl looks pretty or is attractive and no problem with fantasies but would have a problem if he actually did something sexual with a man or woman or a tgirl as thats cheating let alone whatever sexuality it would mean he is.
Cyber sex chatting is harmless fantasy too i feel although he said he doesnt do it but who knows if they do or dont ive told him if he does i dont care just be honest about it.
Men are very visual and have many fantasies ie read a bit about cyber sex on line some women say uts cheating but its just some cheap thrill tease thing they do I will have to find the article as one was men and women and one was about trans Cyber sex doesnt really bother me i dont think its cheating
Rebecca (wife)
Hi Emma
Comfortable him saying he fancies other tgirls in The way he can look at another tgirl and find how she looks attractive that's fine.
Also comfortable him having fantasies as long as he doesn't act on it physically.
Sexy chat I asked him last night he said he has had cyber sex with people in chat rooms saying most chats go that way either admirers or other t girls and it's just a cheap thrill e said it was like me reading one of my bdsm romance novels but with interaction with someone else.
Again in ok with this its not real it's just cyber chat.
So finding another tgirl attractive no it does not make you anything but if you did anything physical with another tgirl or a Man in person then it's cheating and proba ly bisexual.
Hannah (wife)
Wow Hannah youve had a good chat i showed my other half the pic of Courtney Act he didnt know who she was and said wow lol
I think theres fantasy and realist and some fantasy which is double fantasy like single fantasy you might do double fantasy no way and think its healthy to have fantasies.
You did kind of pimp him on cam But i Can get my head round tgirls liking how other tgirls look as some look amazing but that doesnt effect their sexuality
Then theres bi curiosity but are they thinking as women when dressed up
I asked the other half if hes ever chatred to others and he said yes as i know he does but i asked had anyone ever chatred him up in chat And he said yes quite often so i asked how it made him feel and he said rather sheepishly it made him feel good to be admired as a woman
i said 1 gay 6 Straight where are you he said 6
If youre happy with him as a 5 and know hes loyal dont worry about it?
Does he have sexy chats my husband asked and how do you feel if he does?
Emma (Wife)
And Katie yes you can snog the woman from transparent.
Is that worth watching?
Looks like you've had a good chat glad that Katie and myself may have helped in some way.
I think there's fantasy and reality and as long as fantasy stays fantasy there's no problem if you're ok with that and sounds like you are.
If 6 is straight and 5.5 is a tgirl who can look at other girls and say wow then im a 5.5 too but as a bloke I can look at a tgirl and say wow.. You see a woman visually and the wow comes from youre looking at what looks like a woman and when i dress i try my best to look like a woman and sometimes look at myself and say wow lo "Youre so vane.." So still a 6 but will say I used to be homophobic but my views have changed over the years as love is love sex is sex live and let live.
Davina
Thats the man in you KAtie and the social stigma ?
In that case i'd say shes no longer a man i say if you kissed her ok she used to be a man but shes not now so still straight this is an easy one
Hannah (Wife)
If I knew she was a man then I couldn't kiss her. If I knew she used to be a man I'm still not sure I could kiss her. I think that only after knowing someone for a while could I get past the 'she used to be a man' stage.
I had this dilema when watching Transparent. The actor Trace Lysette is absolutely stunning.
Could I kiss her knowing she used to be a man?
I'd like to think if I met her I could look on her as a woman.
Maybe not fully answered your question but as the article said it's down to perception.
Katie
Ok i've added to two other posts already this morning now an update on his revelation.
Reading the Courtney Act post he said as a man hes a 6 man on the scale of 1 woman and 6 man but as a tgirl hes a 5.5 as a part time crossdresser in terms of gender if Courtney is a 4 making a living out of pretending to be a woman and a 5 in terms of his sexuality as a tgirl comparing to Courtneys open bisexuality as a 4 with 1 being totally gay and as a man hes a 6 totally straight.
So i looked up more pictures of Courtney Act like the one below and asked if he fancied her to which i expected a yes as she is stunningly beautiful and very sexy so i said would you kiss her as a t girl yourself looking at her he said sheepishly yes so i said you know shes a he do you still kiss her and he said yes as she looks so sexy so i said would you do it for real ie cheat on me he said i dont know but i dont want to cheat on you so probably not ok i felt we are getting somewhere in some of the posts on here and the article is it purely visual ie a sexy looking woman which is really a man but visually stunning and him crossdressed he would kiss her / him but doesnt want to cheat on me so curious but bi curios? as wouldn't do it as a man but would as a woman hang on so i said would you kiss her as a man he said yes ok so still knowing hes a man you'd kiss him no matter how you presented and he said to me she is beautiful id kiss her so it is purely visual and theoretical and not likely to happen.
There are more racy photos of Ms Act on the google image search i wont post here as this is a clean site nothing pornographic more suggestive ie the one of her legs open and a man positioned between her legs may well be a doctor examining her or the photo may be more racy as it actually is so i said ok youre with ms Act and in that position what would you do and i cant repeat what he said hed do or be doing to her i will leave to your adult imiaginations and he said thats why i say i think as a tgirl im bisexual as i might do that.
The word might as in if he were in that position which is unlikely with Ms Act and also unlikely with another tgirl as when he dresses hes dressed at home mainly but does have the odd trip away in a hotel with work but he said he'd never intentionally meet up with other t girls alone without me there thus avoiding this situation and temptation entirely.
I have some relief for want of a better word that he isnt going to meet other t girls as doesn't want to find himself in a sexually charged predicament alone with another tgirl in case some sexual attraction happens and he doesnt want to cheat on me so i guess im getting my head around being ok with him fancying other t girls and holding some sexual fantasies about being dressed with other t girls.
We had a good chat about it and he confessed when I've made him chat on web cam he gets turned on if people find him attractive and wont get into trouble over this here again but he said it makes him feel more fem to be desired which in turn turns him on and seeing him turned on actually turns me on but i'll stop there.
So in terms of his sexuality as a tgirl hes a 5 out of 6 not totally straight but not looking to do anything about it other than a fantasy so i guess i'm open minded enough to be ok with it thanks girls problem solved but i'd like to hear what Emma, Esme, rebecca and Sindy have to say on the subject would you be happy your husbands not being a 6 totally straight when crossdressed with 5 being borderline bi or maybe fantiase about it as a tgirl and 4 being openly bi if thats a good way to pose a question?
Davina as you like how t girls look in your other post about Courtney Act would you say youre 5.5 gender as you crossdress and a 5.5 sexuality as you appreciate even fancy some t girls in their photos? and what about you Katie or are you both staunchly 6 straight alpha male red blooded men? Sorry to put you on the spot but i'm sure Esme would want to know (wicked me)
Hannah (Wife)
As i said i can look at a picture of a beautiful woman and think wow shes stunning and you can say actually its a man crossdressed and ill still say wow shes stunning.. Maybe as im a crossdresser maybe men who dont dress would cough and say omg disgusting .. But that doesnt make me bisexual.
On tvchix you can vote 1-10 on someones profile picture .. Ive given lots of 10s not as i fancy them but i give a 10 for effort if i think they look convincing or have made a good effort to look like a woman but again not gonna jump in bed with one of them.
Hannah needs to ask if he means hes bi or if he finds the image attractive and see how she feels about whatever answer he gives her... Its not the end of the world even if he is bi as long as hes faithful.
It's all a matter of perception.
When a wife says she isn't a lesbian it is because she is percieving us as female when we're dressed and therefore has no sexual attraction. It doesn't matter what we have between our legs it is the perception that counts.
Equally when Hannah's husband said he found some Tgirls attractive is doesn't mean he is gay or even bi it means he is attracted to women unlless he percieves the T girl as male and is still attracted then he maybe bisexual.
Maybe you could write a book called 50 shades of purple - Blue (male) mixed with Pink (female) = Purple! It all depends what shade of purple you are -
Simple!