By: Sindy
Subject: Quick question
You write well Davina so I'm not sure why anyone would be upset with you sharing your opinion here. I suspect those who disagree have their own agenda and will always whinge about the opinion of others if it's not the same as theirs. I have noticed that in your 'crossdressing community', the troubled minority shout a lot louder than the rest. Definitely a reason why wives freak out when they read online...most of the stories out there are disturbing and not marriage friendly.
Anyway, here's my quick question to keep the ball rolling - would it have been easier to be a gay crossdresser than heterosexual? Everyone assumes you're gay anyway, and the gay community definitely seems more accepting of crossdressing. I also wonder if a gay man would feel less conflicted dating a crossdresser. Or maybe they'd feel equally confused...I do know a few couples where one was a drag queen in his spare time. Didn't seem to affect the relationship dynamic whereas most hetero women find it very difficult to live with. Hmmm...
Thoughts?
By: Davina
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Quick question
Some people who are not “Davina Type” Crossdressers sometimes kick up a fuss about what I have to say even though I always state this is my opinion and experience and also what I’ve gleaned in years of chatting and corresponding with other Crossdressers and their other halves.
I’ve been told maybe some “Trannys” (I’ve been called “Not a proper Tranny” by proper Trannys – and glad I’m not a proper Tranny - Whatever that entails) may be jealous of what some of us Crossdressers have with accepting partners and being straight men and families etc able to play at Crossdressing and not take it too seriously... Maybe this is true who knows…. Who cares.
So I’m glad you think I write well as it flows from my super human fingers onto the page followed by the occasional spell check.. lol
I definitely think some of those who disagree (As nothing wrong in disagreeing with things I type) have their own agenda and will always whinge about the opinion of others if it's not the same as theirs or as in their experience.
This blog isn’t even aimed that them and they say “You don’t speak for me, how dare you call it Why do Men Crossdress!!” and I say ”Are you married and straight?” ..they say “No” … I say “Do you want to be or live as a woman?”… Sometimes they say “Yes” and I say….“You’re right I don’t speak for you as my blog states right at the start … Straight Married Crossdresser”
I would say some of these Trannys / T girls whatever label who shout others down proliferate some of the reasons why wives freak out when they read online...most of the stories out there are disturbing and not marriage friendly. (agreed)...
Onto your question - “Would it have been easier to be a gay crossdresser than heterosexual?”
No idea, but probably as long as he was gay in the first instance as a double whammy for a wife to say “By the Way dear I’m a Crossdresser”….. “WTF!!.. Does that mean you is Gay?”….. “Yes”….. “WTF? Pack your bags get out!”
You are correct ask someone in the street to define a crossdresser and they will say or assume we’re all Gay anyway as part of their hypothesis which must annoy Gay people to some extent also?
Not sure if the gay community is more accepting of crossdressing but they did allow that T to be bolted onto the LGB which I’m not so fond of being a Straight Crossdresser as don’t really want as a Straight married Crossdresser to be associated with something which is sexuality led.. LGB……T
Here’s a weird part though, why would a Gay man fancy a Crossdresser as he looks and acts like a woman.. Surely he would find a T-girl repulsive?
I agree with Katie I suspect also that it’s easier to be a Gay crossdresser if you want to go out in public - 'You're gay', 'Yes I am'… Or maybe if myself or Katie ventured out and someone asked if we were gay it may be easier to say “Yes”… No chance I’d definitely say “No I’m straight let me educate you about Straight men who crossdress and some of the reasons why we do it...”
Drag and crossdressing are definitely two different things along the Trans spectrum which aside from once visiting Minskeys show bar one time in Cardiff I’ve not gone out of my way to see or research Drag Queens – Not even seen wasnim Queen of the Desert!! so Not a proper Tranny lol
(Minskys was a works do I was mortified).
Drag is definitely a poor loud leary caricature of women and can be very sexualised simulating sex with men as part of their show to cause embarrassment .. I’d cringe if one ever got me up on stage ..
A friend was dragged up on stage once OMG funny from where I was standing next to his girlfriend who was weak with laughter but not so funny where he was sat with a Drag Queen Straddling him writhing about.
I also find some of it demeaning to women who don’t seem to see that as they flock to Drag Queen shows for Hen nights.
Crossdressing is more of a private matter and a million miles less flamboyant and definitely not exhibitionist with the aim to look real / convincing and to relax in the escapism from normal manliness we exhume day in day out.. Mainly behind closed doors and drawn curtains but occasionally some venture out for whatever reason.. But still wouldn’t label a Crossdresser / T-Girl out dressed an exhibitionist per say across the board as it maybe he / she just wanted the experience, enjoyed it did it again etc. I hear it can be fun letting your hair down.
Agree with Katie again what is confusing to Crossdressers and to men is a man who says he’s straight but wants a date “and more” with Crossdressers… Is this because we wear the lingerie men desire? have better legs? Dress sexier than women these days? Make more of an effort to look nice? Wear Stockings ad heels? Lol I dont know.
I was once offered £500 via TVChix email to go to dinner with a “Man” – He emailled asking if I’d meet him based on my profile and photo in Tvchix as Davina writing “It’s only dinner and a chat you come as Davina nothing more and I’ll give you £500 up front and pay for dinner” Yeah right.
I did think “Hmmmm shall I see what my wife thinks as this is an easy £500” no I didn’t lol I emailled back ‘thanks by no thanks’ (£500 quid … As a hooker I’d make loads lol)
I have chatted to men on TVChix who say they fancy “Davina” and I find it quite funny always pointing out I’m married and got kids and inside the facade of “Davina” is a raving loonatic bloke!
They usually say “Oh .. I’m married too” and usually “I’ve not had sex with my wife for a long time shes not interested”
“So talk to her about it then don’t go asking a man in a dress out on a date you don’t know where he’s been!”
Yes Sindy this is this the 'Tranny Chaser' or ’Admirer’ who wont admit they’re Gay or maybe Bisexual.. Maybe a new sexuality is required for men who fancy T-Girls and want to have sex with them but want to be thought of as straight.
I think you’re right Sindy “Some are so scared to be Bisexual or Gay, they'd rather pretend they're straight by being with men who pretend to be women” if that makes any sense.
Onto T-Girls who fancy T-Girls and I will admit look at some profiles on TVChix and you might say wow She / He looks stunning as a woman “But he’s a man … “
A friend of ours went to Amsterdam when a pride march (one of those again!) was going on and she said the men crossdressed we’re stunning as women.. So you can see the visual attraction which some T-Girls then lower their straightness and the Gaydar kicks in and they go on a voyage of Bisexuality with another T-girl but still think they are Straight – so the other sexuality T-Girls who fancy women and T-Girls but think they’re straight… Confused?
I’ve chatted to lots of people and some T-Girls who have gone along this path put it down to a boring marriage, no sex life and wanting to be touched when dressed etc and they’ve met and “done stuff” with another T-Girl… I’m not covering it here but maybe a Bi T-Girl would like to post something here as all sides of the story are welcome but keep it clean.
Anyway this is dragging on lol and raising more questions I expect to make Sindys head explode..
I'm afraid that Ricky Martin does nothing for me either! Not even if he looked pretty as a woman!
By: Katie
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Quick question
I'm afraid that Ricky Martin does nothing for me!
By: Sindy
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Quick question
Or was it only me discussing Ricky Martin?? lol
By: Sindy
Subject: Re: Re: Quick question
Is this the 'tranny chaser' label I've seen thrown around? I do wonder the motive for a straight guy desiring a crossdresser. Surely he's not really straight - he's bi or gay in denial? Seems if the women you're attracted to have penises then you're probably not entirely heterosexual, lol.
Ah, I might laugh, yet all this shows is how tiny the box men are forced to live in. Some are so scared to be gay, they'd rather pretend they're straight by being with men who pretend to be women.
My head hurts contemplating that. Can't we go back to discussing Ricky Martin and how it's a travesty that he's not straight?!! :-D
By: Katie
Subject: Re: Quick question
I've been on other sites where the matriarchs basically run the show and if you disagree with their line of thinking you are shouted down. I think we have to realise that we are a broad church and that people will have different opinions. I like it when my point of view is challenged or I am made to think in a different way. This is part of understanding and I'm always willing to learn so having the debates here is always refreshing and even if Davina and I agree on most things we do still have Sindy to throw us a curve ball.
I suspect is is easier to be a gay crossdresser if you want to go out in public - 'you're gay', 'yes I am'. I think that most gay men want a man the same as most women want a man. I'm sure they find it equally confusing.
I think drag and crossdressing are two different things. Drag is a caricature of women (although unfortunately some crossdressers do look like they're in drag), it's fun, it's a show. Crossdressing is more of a private matter and done for different reasons so I can understand why it maybe more acceptable to 'drag' it up as part of a gay couple but not crossdress in 'Davina' terms.
What does confuse men is heterosexual men who want to date crossdressers.