This is purely based on anecdotal evidence but having chatted with a few Tgirls on Tvchix there do seem to be a few reasons why men will 'date' T girls.
The first is that they think they will get sex. I asked on admirer why he liked T girls. He said so he could share them with his mate - a gang bang in his words. I was pretty horrified. It seems that some admirers have such a low opinion that they would be willing to 'gang bang' a t girl. I know that the argument about consensual sex will be made but if an unsuspecting T girl or woman found herself in that postion it would be terrible.
The second group seems to be older and in some cases married men. Again the primary reason is sex but with a different motive. It seems that these guy are not getting any sex with their wives (who longer care about their appearance) and are looking for their ideal 'sexy woman'. We know that the majority of T girls will dress in a way that is attractive to men. So if sex is avaliable with a 'sexy woman' who comes with no complications then they jump at the chance,
I know it's not fair but given the choice which of these two do you think most men would go for?
A T girl
The 'Real Life' Waynetta Slob.
I know that some married men will have affair with other women. But some obviously take the T girl route. Some T girls have 'no married men' on their profiles.
OK. Not scientific but we know that me are visiual and if we look at the 'situationally bi' arguement you can see why some men will fancy a T girl.
Anyone else have any thoughts or experiences?
Katie
Worthing has a purely social monthly, in a hotel bar, if you're interested. Wives/partners welcome. Highly recommended. Ask for details.
Sex clubs exist for cis people, so why not for trans people?
Sex is fun and a growing number of marriages now go beyond "vanilla". So suggesting these places "paint a bad picture" is unjustly judgmental. If you want to go to a sex event, go to one. If that's not your thing, don't go to one. If instead you want to go to a social "drinks and chat" event, go to one of those.
Obviously, the onus is on you to know exactly what you are attending.
Cheating of course is another thing all together, but judge the cheater not the venue for the cheaters behaviour. (Do hotels paint a bad picture for the rest of us who use them, simply because they are also often used for illicit nookie by others?)
My TVchix page has an intro about me and links to here and my old blog and a badge
"No Male Admirers please"
I still get contacted with messages and some men are surprised to realise there are straight t girls out there..
I will chat to them sometimes and have found some just want to chat, sport, politics and although are interested in tgirls once they realise they're "not getting in your knickers" a few are ok to chat to just general chatting even though they sometimes revert to type and say "I can't believe you're not Bi thats so unfair"
Not good this bi tgirl married friend of yours telling his wife hes off to a tgirl event when he's actually upto no good using crossdressing for sexual meets behind her back... It spoils things for the regular tgirl who may want to go to a tgirl social event if wives know this type of thing is occuring.
I was thinking of talking to Esme about going to a social event and had a few people ask if i'd go.
I looked the place up which was about 15-20 miles away and it looked a bit seedy but I was assured by the people who ran it that it used to be a bit of a stay downstairs if you want to just dress go upstairs if you wanted something more.. that put me off but they said it was now social only and "fraternising" of any sexual nature was frowned upon and people were kicked out or banned.. I did think ok now as the kids get older maybe this is the answer if a) The place is social b) The tgirls and wives are ok and friendly and c) If Esme was ok with it.
The place has now stopped operations anyway so not an option.. would I have gone? unsure but maybe just to see what it was like with Esmes ok.... She could have come with me got a makeover together there.
There are elements in this business which paint a bad picture for the rest of us.
Davina
On my travels around Facebook I've got to a point where I won't accept friend requests from men, simply because I'm not interested in men, a lot of my "girlfriends" who are either full trans and in the process of transitioning or full time dressers or even the part time dressers are all lesbians! I've found they're not into men and are solely interested in women.
It's taken me a bit of practice to spot the fake accounts who claim they are either a cis woman or a trans person but are really a man, and they are from a certain ethnical culture shall we say!
And on tvchix i have all my settings set to no male admirers and I won't answer to any messages from them, it's just that I don't want to get into that part of the community as i know where it's going to lead.
Saying that just before christmas I was invited to a bi night at a sex club not far from me by one of my other married CD friends on chix, she proceeded to tell me all about her experiences there, it was very interesting but I declined, now don't forget this is a married CD who's wife thinks her husband is just going out for a social meet with other crossdressers! So obviously there is a big lie and cheating going on in that instance, so I can see why a lot of wives are weary about there husbands going out dressed, wondering what they are getting up to.
Cat x
" now id find it flattering ". Thats definitely cool. Thats how I feel about it too.
" People assume you crossdress so youre gay ". I get that all the time. If a guy comes onto me, I just explain I'm only into girls, am married and have two kids. Its funny how surprised they are sometimes. Its always straight guys too, gay guys just ignore us. The way to explain it is "Sexuality is who you like to go to bed WITH, whereas gender is who you like to go to bed AS". Not that I go to bed as Debs, but it gets the message across.
People assume you crossdress so youre gay Esme even asked if i was gay which id not even considered .. no i love women why would you think im gay ahhh the image of a woman attracts men and i look like a woman ergo NO! wrong I dont dress to attract men,,, phew says Esme thats one thing not to worry about... do you want to be a woman? No! strike 2... we're getting somewhere...
I'm not homophobic either... i Used to be i'll admit but now think more live and let live as long as its not in my face or affecting us,,, did creep me out once i tried on a suit in a shop and a friend knew the gay guy that worked there and told me he fancied me ewww cold shiver and i went in the week later and bought a shirt and he said that'll look great with your suit... ewww another cold shiver .. now id find it flattering lol
I could say wow you fancy me as a man ? cool but look no adams apple andlong eye lashes im a crossdresser and said gay guy would go ewwww wcold shiver lol...
I don't dress to attract anyone.
Given up trying to attract Esme as Davina not that I tried to really but she does think if we fool around with me crossdressed it messes with her sexuality.. in her head anyway.
I dress for me to see how convincing I can look to try to emulate a tidy (Welsh descriptor word) looking woman who makes an effort.. makeup, hair, nice dress, hosiery tits and heels 😁
It is flattering to get a message saying you look nice or that someone fancies you or rather how you look in a profile picture but I don't dress to attract anyone.
On the other hand some tgirls do dress to attract men and that's their business.
Not for me men are yuck eww no!
Davina
I'm a woman I'm.nII'm.not attracted to tgirls but will say my other half looks decent as a woman and we do fool around when he's crossdressed and no it doesn't make me a lesbian.
Why do men really fancy tgirls? Is it that there are a lot of Bi tgirls about and they're "easy" they look and dress how men like women to dress and will do things some women won't do?
Tgirls make more effort but do you dress to attract people or to try to look attractive and real?
Emma (wife)
Because straight guys are attracted to femininity. Gay guys are attracted to masculinity. Its no mystery. So why would that be considered so surprising?. For me, as someone who gets out dressed to "vanilla" places, the one thing that *is* a mystery, is how common it seems to be that women (often much younger, and often very pretty) are attracted to us.
I'm still making an effort with make-up and how I dress daily but lots of women do fall into the contentment and stop.making the effort so I get you Davina.
I do have days where I go makeupless give my face a break it's a lot of work to put on and remove and moisturiser a routine.
You tgirls know this.
Not sire why men fancy t girls but I guess tgirls make and effort to look a certain way which men are attracted to not that you're trying to attract men.
Emma (wife)
My point is women get satisfied in a relationship and opt for comfort neglecting things men find attractive like dresses, heels ,tights , matching lingerie, ... flat shoes ewww..
Maybe because tgirl s dress how men desire as more and more women give up their sexy femininity which men find boring.
Tgirls try to oooze femininity in a sexy way and know how to turn men on as they are men and know how to please men as they are men and know what they like
So maybe easier for a man to fan cy a tgir l and her what he wants than with a woman?
No. It's on the 'to do ' list lol.
Good to hear Katie
Have you talked to your wife yet about how much importance crossdressing is in your life?
Em (wife)
Hi Emma
It's very sweet of you to worry about me but I'm not about to put myself in that sitaution. I'd love to go out to an event and maybe one day I will but it needs to be the right sort of event where I'm not going to end up in a compromising position.
I've managed to stay out the clutches of wily women so I'm sure I can do the same with a bunch of T girls lol.
As you may have gathered Davina and I have been chatting quite a bit and she's seen 'straight' t gilrs go down that route. It's just something that scares us as it seems so easliy done if you don't have the right resolve. Both of us have no intention of being unfaithful to our wives and I think we're sensible enough not to fall into any traps.
Katie
OK Davina having seen you on Cam you must have a list of admirers lol
How tempting was the £500?
Katie now you're concerning me " I'm worried that I may find myself in a difficult situation. Probably best to stay sober if we did lol"
Do you think you may be lured or seduced into being situationally Bi with other t girls or a man? Katie?
Being only a few glasses of wine from temptation?
Em (Wife)
No Emma I meant lots of tgirls like me married straight what you've called the Davina type... but some become situationally bi
Hi Emma
Real T girl. Ok I googled beautiful T girls and she came up so there's no proof she really is but there are loads who are absolutlely stunning.
Neither of us (Davina or myself) have been situationally bi. We'd both love to go out but I know I'm worried that I may find myself in a difficult situation. probably the same for Davina. Probably best to stay sober if we did lol.
Katie
Is that photo really a t girl Katie?
I thought my other half scrubbed up well but blimey shes better looking than me!
Did you mean this Davina?
"ive spoken to like me Straight married etc who have sucumb to being situationally Bi"
Have you been situationally Bi?
Ive chatted to all sorts of people in TV Chix even had a guy based purely on my profile photo offer me £500 to go to dinner with him as Davina.. I guess he was hoping for more than dinner so turned him down.
Ive asked what is it with men who admire T Girls and the reply has ranged from the Sex is unbelievable as you have a TGirl dressed Sexy looking female knowing what makes a man tick Sexually and may do Things a woman wont and a TGirl will aim to please TO Tgirls can be more Feminine looking and Behave more like women than some women.
Ive asked TGirls who do meet men why? they say it feels like a validation of femininity to be that fancied and to give that pleasure making them feel and being treated like women albeit sexual objects.
I concur it is nice to be fancied as a tgirl a confIdence boost.
The majority of men who fancy tgirls class themselves straight too... Hmmmm?
As Katie points out a lot are married, wives off Sex and making less effort to Look nice or even to hug and kiss their husbands. Sexual Frustration sends them elsewhere ...
Logic would Say a man might find another woman or on line porn but it seems a lot of men on Trans sites like Birchplace And TV Chix admiring TGirls.
Given the two pics above purely visually then wow if the photo above is a TGirl visually she'd be Your choice as she looks stunning ... Brings us onto Tgirls who fancy Tgirls and Looking at that pic I can say Myself "Wow I Fancy Her" Doesnt make me Gay as for all I Know visually shes a She.
Like men Tgirls can find themselves in a sexless marriage scenario and theres porn and theres getting off dressed up on yourself and some meet up at trans social events and there are lots of married Tgirls Ive spoken to like me Straight married etc who have sucumb to being situationally Bi and acted out a range of things with Other Tgirls.
Its A Phenomenon maybe Katie.. Maybe more Men than its realised are taking to Crossdressing at some level and Maybe more Men are admiring Tgirls more as we always aim to Look attractive and dress how we find women Attractive.
This may worry the Wives on here?
Davina