its a big issue that's not really that big as far as we're concerned but its made a big deal. Tgirls and wives and girlfriends chip in here.. A message from another tgirl in TVChix led us to a quick debate on why it is some women accept cross dressing and some flip out and pack their bags or the cross dressers bags. Why is it Taboo is a good question? Why do we find it so hard to talk about? Why do wives find it hard to talk about? Who made it Taboo? Is it the society norm? The society idea of what cross dressers are? Is this changing? Why do women feel so threatened by us dressing as women? Why is it thought deceitful that most cross dressers either caught out or confess we cross dress after marriage? Why is it a trip to the divorce courts for some? If women knew before marriage would they have married us? If the answer is no there's more to it than cross dressing surely? Feel free to add questions and answers to this thread.. It could be an interesting one seeing both sides of the coin here.. Seems a flip of a coin if a wife will accept us cross dressing or not.. Davina
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She is attractive but like i said fully trans not hiding away like most of us.. never see a program with a positive slant on crossdressers.. still taboo
Seen that too and the trans woman is stunning
She's a good character in a program and also a real trans woman. They cover the trans issue in America but further down the road towards transition and loving full time as a woman in Designated Survivor. Its not a story of one of the main characters stressed out working for th president when off duty dressing and relaxing dressed as a woman.. Odds on if they did have that character they'd also make the character sexually active when dressed which would be disappointing.
I'm finding my voice is being silenced in general. A view on Palestinians and you're quickly called an Antisemite, we're easily called sexist and can't even make a joke about it, easily called racist and priveledged as I'm a white married man .. I maybe have some sort of trans rights if I wanted them but then I've been told I'm not proper trans lol Its a mad world of labels and finger pointing and becoming hard to have conversation and debate without somehow causing offence. At least we still have our free speech here.
I have been chatting with Davina about Designated Survivor. There is a trans themed section in series 3 which I thought was worth posting
On section during the discussion at the meeting resonated when one member says 'We all spent so much of our life pretending to be somebody else. And that means we're hiding from ourselves and from the people who love us. At the end of the day when we have to hide who we are both us and the people we love lose.'
Katie x
It is a bit weird reading about you all wearing your mums knickers and things but i suppose where else are you going to start.
Nice to read what first started you.
Bullying i hate but good you found an outlet for happiness and Davina and your like of silky things your first porn was the lingerie sections of littlewoods catalogues lol
I'm more than happy with out situation and i know how much crossdressing helps him and he doesnt want to take it any further.
A pity people cant see it as a fun and accepted thing men can do
Emma (Wife)
Too many people are normal and normal is boring isn't it I'm a Rebel
I like to think we are all individuals which makes us all interesting in our own way
I find it quite sad and very annoying that people think that they have the right to judge others because hey have different ideas and quirkes - there is no one pidgeon hole !
I've never thought of myself as unmasculine and weak because i crossdress .. not many more masculine and strong willed as me as a man but it can take its toll keeping up this appearance and the escapism of crossdressing is somehow a great release and enjoyable.
Not the society norm no but it is getting better although not sure its getting better for us t girls / crossdressers we're still misunderstood and lots of tgirls still scared to talk to wives in fear of rejection.
The worm needs to turn just a little but but not too much lol
Why is it taboo?
Because we live in a misogynist society where women are considered the weaker sex. To want to emulate a woman is un-masculine and demeaning.
Is it the society norm?
No but as we've discussed before with gender fluid and non binary becoming more acceptable amongst the young the pendulum is swinging.
Katie x
For me I dress to de-stress it started with my mums clothes while at school because I was bullied don’t ask me why but it helped. After that it had just continued. We had the talk when I came out to Chelle before we got engaged. I confirmed I’m not Bi and don’t want to go all the way and become a woman. We work around children being at home and have fun with it.
Why is it Taboo is a good question? Because the wider society says it is but its getting better
Why do we find it so hard to talk about? Because you're scared of rejection and freaking us out
Why do wives find it hard to talk about? Because its a shock to the system the man you married likes wearing your clothes and wants to put on a wig and makeup we bury our heads and hope it will go away
Who made it Taboo? Society in general and the media
Is it the society norm? Yes unfortunately in a survey most would tick the pervert box
The society idea of what cross dressers are? Perverts
Is this changing? Slowly for full trans not so much for crossdressers
Why do women feel so threatened by us dressing as women? Youre taking away our femininity telling us we're not good enough is how it felt at first
Why is it thought deceitful that most cross dressers either caught out or confess we cross dress after marriage? Leads on to your next message
Why is it a trip to the divorce courts for some? We didnt knowingly marry perverts (harsh but what some women will say) we didnt knowingly marry men who dress as women
If women knew before marriage would they have married us? No I think like Emma early on first date told i'm a crossdresser id have run a mile you know how i was about this at first (those who have been here a long time) it would have been a bad move to have walked away if i had
If the answer is no there's more to it than cross dressing surely? Depends as if on a first date Id have said no thanks but like Emma said when you fall in love then it would be a tougher decision and it would have needed more than him dressing as a woman for me to walk away.
With hindsight its harmless and id advise all wives and gfs to talk to them get the honesty out of them
Why do you dress?
what do you get out of it?
have to ask the sexuality question
if the answer is yes I'm bi the next is are you thinking of acting on it as that would be cheating a deal breaker
what do you ideally want from me as your wife?
Hope this helps
Hannah (Wife)
Honest answers only
Why is it Taboo is a good question?
Because it just is its not something "normal women" would look for in a man and i mean normal as in normal not that someone who does look for a man who is a crossdresser as abnormal just not common.
Why do we find it so hard to talk about?
Now i know hes a crossdresser and im ok with it it seems silly we struggled to talk about it but at the time you dont want it to be happening let alone talk about it but talking about it is the only way to sort it out but we dont see that at the time frightened what it means.
Why do wives find it hard to talk about? oh hang on i just answered this or was the first qustion for tgirls? oops
Who made it Taboo? The world did our parents did
Is it the society norm? Yes society still not ready for crossdressers
The society idea of what cross dressers are? Perverts and weirdos
Is this changing? Slowly
Why do women feel so threatened by us dressing as women? Its like an attack on our femininity but i can see men think were attacking their mascuinity and thats ok for us to do but not ok for them to act fem and crossdress.
Why is it thought deceitful that most cross dressers either caught out or confess we cross dress after marriage? Its the shock
Why is it a trip to the divorce courts for some? There must be more to it than the crossdressing
If women knew before marriage would they have married us? IIm not sure how id have reacted when dating him if hed told me he was a crossdresser depends if this was early on in us dating then maybe yes id have wakled away no idea but once we fell in love i dont think so id have probably tried to get him to stop to be honest
f the answer is no there's more to it than cross dressing surely? agreed to a part but depends like if he said first date by the way im a crossdresser maybe id have exited as wasnt looking to date a crossdresser
I answered honestly and shocked but id have not been with the love of my life if id let crossdressing get in the way.
Emma (Wife)
We have the private joke too between us about my dressing.. Shopping for Davina not so much usually have a look when we have our annual London trip but places to go isn't something we've done apart from our one trip out as Girls in London.
We have fun shopping, choosing things together, planning things to do places to go and our private jokes but not degrading or hurtful 😃
That's great Chelle. If only all wives and GFs were as open minded and accepting. There can be a fun element to being involved with your other half cross dressing.
I personally don’t have an issue with CD and my view is that it’s not anyone’s business but their own. I also wouldn’t be dissuaded by other’s opinions- if they don’t like the idea of it then so be it! We’re doing just fine thank you 😁